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Are Skippers planning for their next mass exodus?

Old 9th Oct 2009, 04:20
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From the Australian 9th Oct 2009

Skippers WAs Truly Regional Airline
Dash 8 Check Pilot
Skippers Aviation Pty Ltd, a WA based regional airline, is seeking a full time endorsed Dash 8-100/300 Captain to join our Flight Standards Department for aircraft and simulator Check and Training duties. Previous experience as a Check Captain is desirable.
In addition to Perths spacious and relaxed lifestyle, we offer excellent facilities, great career development opportunities and competitive salary packages to quality candidates.
All applications must include a covering letter of introduction. Only applications addressing the required experience will be considered.
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 11:22
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Woot woot....... another Skippies thread.... wheres me popcorn?....
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 13:14
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mmm

Oi Wiz, you supply the popcorn, i'll get the booze.

This is gonna be fun!!!
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Old 9th Oct 2009, 13:31
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Ground hog day
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I got me some of those fancy deckchairs with drink holders attached, mind if I tag along?
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Old 10th Oct 2009, 16:07
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Have I missed anything? Oh good!

By the way, we have a good bunch of solid crew at the moment, I don't expect any movement in the near future. This is a good company to work for, ok its not perfect, but I'm home every weekend and every night of the week.

I love my job!
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 03:10
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Oh dear!

We've got a couple like you over here on the East coast.

Be prepared for lots of overtime.
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 03:11
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do you get overtime at ski##ers?
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 05:32
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Hello everybody,

I have spoken to this company about comming out to Australia and working for them and they were very nice to deal with, but after reading this and another post about Skippers, I am having second thoughts. Is all of this negativity true or is it just an unhappy few. Are there any other regional airlines that people would recommend?

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Old 11th Oct 2009, 05:37
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Ask KRUSTY, he luuuuurves REX
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 06:13
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Are there any other regional airlines that people would recommend?
Sure there are other regionals arround, however they probably won't be as desperate as Skippers too help sponsor a work permit for you mate.

That said, Skippers may have its problems, but Perth is a great place to live and you can only spend so many hours at work.
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 09:46
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Stay clear of this company!!!

...otherwise you may find yourself working 3-4 days per week (mon-fri), having to go to sleep in your own bed, having to go to a bbq with your mates on the weekend, and trying to survive in Perth on 90k....

What you really want to do is fork out 30k for a shiny jet endo, pay for your own coffee and never see the family....


wtf???
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 09:59
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Genuine question Long John. Did Skippers take the unusual step of competeing for it's pilots, not only in monetary terms, but also perhaps by a co-operative and mutually respectful approach.

I ask, because if they did, and what you say is true, then it's one of the few sensible approaches to the recent crewing crisis' that I have heard. The real test of course will be just how many choose to stay when the major airlines come calling again.

While some are lured by the pospect of flying the big jet, I think many more (certainly more than many regional airline managers give credit for) feel that pound for pound, regional flying has a lot to offer. Provided of course you can comfortably raise your family, and not face the prospect of having to eat cat food in retirement!
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 10:12
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otherwise you may find yourself working 3-4 days per week (mon-fri), having to go to sleep in your own bed, having to go to a bbq with your mates on the weekend, and trying to survive in Perth on 90k
........and driving home at 1130 in the morning to make my 1300 Tee off with the boys really pisses me off!
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 10:25
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Is this 90k actually salary now or is it still a 'bonus'. If it's salary that's awesome If it's what I think it is then you may have the rugged pulled from under you as soon as it's convenient
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 10:42
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Is this 90k actually salary now or is it still a 'bonus'. If it's salary that's awesome If it's what I think it is then you may have the rugged pulled from under you as soon as it's convenient
As I am not on a command package I cannot confirm or deny the actual details of the contract, but I am lead to believe its still a bonus on top of the standard salary for the Braz and Dash captains only.
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 10:47
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Nev's right guys. Unless it's in the EBA, then it's at the Guvners' pleasure. As I said, I hope that Skippers mangement have gone down the long term path. God knows, it'll pay dividends in the not too distant future.

If not, then we all know what will again happen. Time will tell!
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I hear the current terms still include a 'bonus' rather than a fully incorporated salary. So I agree not the most stable of terms. However if they've kept it in play the whole way through the GFC you'd think management must be taking a long term view of it.

Main point I was trying to make is that there is a real valid choice in choosing a regional operater. If the conditions are right, and they are paying ok money then its probably a much better long term lifestyle than getting in with a long haul operator or domestic LCC.
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So conditions would be better in a GA charter company than a domestic airline? Times must have changed.....
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Old 11th Oct 2009, 22:57
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Hello everybody,

Thanks Cessna Capt, fortunately I don't need sponsorship for a work permit to work in Australia.

90 thousand per year sounds good, how about the bonus, is it for a particular performance or fuel saving etc. I have never worked under a bonus system.


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