Aussie training in New Zealand
 

Hello,
After completing my year twelve studies over here in Australia, I am thinking about going to New Zealand for my flight training. By that time I hope to have my private licence. After completing my training I would more than likely come back home and look for a job up north.
How is this looked upon by operators?
Has anyone on here done it before and have you had any problems?

Thank you

Trainiing in nz is a great experience. Was fortunate enough to have completed my cpl and cir there. I hear that its very easy for australian student to study there and have the flying funded by the nz studylink scheme. Just be prepared to wait a while for your licence conversion to go through when you arrive back home. Some people have waited more than 6 months.

Good onya :ok:

Strip as many pennys as ya can from the Kiwis and never look back :cool:

Make sure you get all the fruit before you leave CPL, CIR, Tail Wheel, Low Level. FIR and chuck in a few useful endorsements as well. Baron/travelair C310, PA31, C402, PN68 and a BE76 for renewals in AU comes in handy too. Hell do it all in a twin if its funded by the kiwi purse!

Free CPL yeeeee haaaaa

Hopefully if more Aussies do it they will pull the scheme and there will be less Kiwis in Australia stealing our jobs :p

(I wish there was an emotion for a smiley stirring a pot)

Just don't be surprised when they track you down in the future and take from you everything you have worked for.

Low Level?? Even our PPL's have to do low flying as part of their training (low flying = 500' agl and below)!

does studylink cover a few different flight schools or is it just the massey university course?

Certain approved training facilities, check the Nelson Marlborough tech site for that info.

Very funny Goblin :hmm:
Any Aussies that have done this, your opinions would be great.

So can Australians citizens receive NZ studylink?
Cheers.

Yes, they can.

But when considering training there, take into account all the living costs etc. It is very expensive to live in New Zealand, much more so than in Australia. You won't be able to get any student benefits as far as I'm aware, so you'll be paying everything bar the flying yourself.

Considering that they allow 18 months for the Diploma (It can be done in less obviously), It may be worth just going for the Degree.

Aside from that, Im a New Zealander and have my name down for the program. :)

When I was living in new zealand the cost was alot cheaper for me at uni, I was in Christchurch so it's probably always going to be cheaper then melbourne... I was able to receive student allowance after 2 years of living in the country, but to start with you could always use studylink loans there were no restrictions on that. Also with the arrangement you do not need visas for work so finding a job is easy to make a little bit of money on the side. I wish i had thought of what you have as an option when I did my pilots licence.

There is no way on earth the cost of living is higher in NZ.
Even Australian beer is cheaper in NZ! :*

If you haven't been there long enough to qualify for the student allowance you can borrow $160 a week on top of your student loan. Its not a lot, but means you can work less and focus a bit more on studying.

18 months is if you take your time. It took me 12 months from 0hrs to CPL, MEIR, and instructor rating.

Interest free while in NZ, and if you move overseas you can freeze payments for 3 years, after which the cap on the maximum they can make you pay is $1500 every 6 months. With interest though, that would mean going backwards on repayments and never paying it off.

Sheeps arse!

The only thing that makes NZ more expensive is that they are willing to work for less so disposable income aint that crash hot.

Not willing to work for less at all. And don't think that guys in nz are happy about J* T's & C's and accept that as market rate. A few may work for them but most won't. It's exploitation by C#ntas.
Unfortunately salaries are less in NZ across all industries, but I wouldn't say it's expensive to live in compared to Aussie. Yes student loans are interest free, but only if you stay in the country. Leave and you will owe interest. About 8% I think.

And Green Goblin, why do you harbour such hate towards kiwis? Has someone stolen your job or boyfriend? You seem to love to stir sh#t every time you post, but sometimes people want proper answers, not idiotic rants.

Come on guys, lets leave Gobbling C#cks sexual preference out of this..........:=

ben_093: Re living costs, food is a major item anywhere.

A recent article on TV in NZ had an Aussie complaining about the cost of food in Oz against NZ.
He filled a trolley in a supermarket on OZ, ( I think it was Sydney) then flew to Auckland and did the same there.
Exactly the same number of items, same brands, same manufacturers, same size, every item in the trolley was the same.

IIRC it was so much cheaper in Auckland the difference paid for the airfare and he still had a few dollars left over.

No hate, some of my best friends are from Unzed :cool:

The persona on pprune I'm portraying presently is that of the green goblin. I'll get bored soon and start a new one. Been doing it since 2000 :)

I wouldn't be able to make an exact figure on food costs, but im sure they are similar. I do know that electricity is expensive as is petrol; and yes, wages are a lot lower.

Whether that equates to greater living costs I'm not sure.

The fact that he/she/it posts on every thread involving NZ gives me the feeling the Green Goblin is actually a closet Kiwi :}

Wanna chup? :cool:

If you can get a student loan in NZ then why not I guess, get one back for all the bro's we send over to take advantage of your welfare system while they sit on the beach at Bondi.
I would be cautious about getting the living allowance (or at least the full amount) though as at some stage you will (may) have to pay it back. Most of the schools that fit into the student loan scheme are in regional centres so rent is fairly cheap ($90-$120pw), as for food the GA stable of noodles is pretty cheap when purchased in bulk. Always bar work etc to help top up the income.
If you want to get a better idea on cost of living log onto Trade Me ? New Zealand online auctions and classifieds. Browse, buy and sell online on trademe.co.nz to check out rent prices around the country.

This is very interesting? so who has done this? gone to NZ and used there scheme to pay for it. Sounds very very good. Is there any school bakcgrounds you need like subject wise to do this diploma? If someone is going to pay for flying then why not do it :ok: especialy someone poor like me:cool:

Can anyone recomend any schools to use?

You'll have a better range of options if you go through the Nelson/Marlborough Institute of Technology (NMIT). They use approx 20 different providers for aviation training in NZ incl Ardmore Flying School and Canterbury's International Aviation Academy New Zealand (IAANZ).

If you go through NMIT, you can transfer freely among the different providers as your funding is centralised through NMIT, whereas if you go through Massey for example, and for whatever reason, wanted out of the university side of things then you'd have to terminate funding and training with them and re-apply for new funding etc at another provider.

Plenty of good places....

A little disappointed to hear that Aussies can come over, take advantage of our student loan scheme and leave potentially never to come back and/or pay it back since the scheme is a major burden on the tax payer... Does it work the other way too? I was interested in doing a correspondence course through a couple of Oz Uni's but was put off but the exorbitant fees for international students....

Yeah Sqwark is right. NMIT is a good way to go vs Massey. 1 year vs 3 years for getting your licence. More options.
But I hear Aussie are looking at the MPL now. This could be interesting......

And Green Goblin I think I finally get your humour. :ok: Ya flaming galah.

The Kiwis have been doing it in Aus for years. Back when our health system was not in such disrepair they would come over, get midi-care get an operation and go home. Many Kiwis used to come over here when I grew up, buy a house work for a few years, sell up and take it all back home which would have cost Australia billions.

I reckon it's fair game, the Kiwis have always looked to Australia for opportunity and to get ahead, perhaps it's time we did the reverse :ok:

Awwwwww neeeeeeer

Pity most of the debt collectors used to collect unpaid student loans are Australian companies...

Surely some Aussie has done this? Whats best school train at in nz?
PS thanks for ya previous help Squak

Yeah I'm interested in this too. Does anyone have cost estimates for the courses too?

About 75K CPL, MEIR and C-cat.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the C-CAT? I have googled it but can only find reference to other acronyms.

Cheers

C-Cat is the equivalent of Grade 3,
B-Cat - Grade 2
A-Cat - Grade 1

Cat stands for Category

He's talking about instructor ratings to :ok:

wow guys, this is an impressive thread. keep it up!

If you do go down the path of Cat C, make sure you go to a flying school that will either allow you to build your hours for free, or even pay you a small amount. Some places will make you pay. :ugh:

Forget flying for free! Therein lies the problem with this industry. Only go to a place prepared to pay you! Why do pilot's as a group seem so keen to f#@k themselves over?

Aussies taking our loans AND expecting some hour building work := Yeah right.

Meh :rolleyes: you might aswell take our loans, we're paying 100 times that to fly bloody politicians round the country/planet...

Just no one mention smacking... :ugh:

Most of the Kiwi pilots I know when I say "so are you going to go home and get a job" reply "no way bro, owe to much money"

Doesn't stop 'em whinging about how great NZ is though :ok:

Hmm, Really?

Most schools I've contacted that do the Cat C will at least let you do the 100 hours to get the fully approved licence.

Yes, but will they all pay you for the work?

Some will, some not. Check that point out first.

By that you mean getting out of direct supervision. A C cat is always under the supervision of an A or B Cat, it's just that after 100 hours AND 6 months they don't have to be present on the field while you ply your trade.