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jono987 30th Jul 2009 23:23

SFTC and the Last Minute Jitters
 
Hi PPRuNers.

There's so much running through my head right now, that it's difficult to collate all my thoughts and express them in mere text.

Basically, I'm an Indian who's signed up with SFTC at Bankstown and am pretty much committed to start training with them on the 15th of August. Everything was rainbows and butterflies (I've always dreamed of being a pilot. Even before it became somewhat of a 'hot career option') until I found this forum and happened to look up 'SFTC' in the search.

I must say, apart from a few sporadic "it's okay"s you guys don't have a lot of nice things to say about the place. Moreover, a bunch of talk going on about about something to do with it's merger with 'CAS' and the company being bankrupt and it selling it's 'AOC' and other such rumours connected to acronyms that I do not yet fully comprehend have managed to get me even more worked up.

Is there anyone who could give me an absolutely unbiased opinion on what exactly is the scene regarding SFTC right now? I have a lot riding on this, and can NOT afford (literally ' can not afford') to mess this up, so any inputs from you guys would be most appreciated.

-Jonathan

das Uber Soldat 30th Jul 2009 23:28

smell that?

D-J 30th Jul 2009 23:34


Even before it became somewhat of a 'hot career option
hmmm wanted to be a pilot since the 60's - 70's thats probably the last era is was a hot option all down hill since then :ouch:

as for sftc put in the effort & you'll get through, just be careful with those liberties :oh:

tmpffisch 30th Jul 2009 23:43

Jono. If your dedication and work ethic is anything like your English, you'll be fine. You get out what you put in.

Once you get here, I highly recommend watching quality TV programming such as TodayTonight. You'll like reporters such as Jonathan Creek...think about it, you already have something in common with him (same name)

Joker 10 31st Jul 2009 00:16

Incoming, Windup = Journo , be careful now

Swift6 31st Jul 2009 00:30

Hang on, isn't Bombay now named Mumbai?

tmpffisch 31st Jul 2009 00:38

...no no. It's still Bombay to the Indian locals.....obviously.

Atlas Shrugged 31st Jul 2009 01:59

Interesting.......

www.sydneyflighttraining.com.au

VH-XXX 31st Jul 2009 02:57

Jonathan, your English is absolutely impeccable for an Indian and Jonathan is an interesting native Indian name. I'm impressed at your efforts and impressed that you managed to trick atleast one fellow pruner.

Atlas Shrugged 31st Jul 2009 03:27

Hmmm.......and nice use of a decorative font as well ! ;)

GADRIVR 31st Jul 2009 04:31

To SFTC management,
Whats going on guys? Why aren't you paying your staff? Why isn't your website coming up? Why are students leaving and going to other schools?
Why?
:E

jono987 31st Jul 2009 07:39

While I can (somewhat) understand the scepticism, I can not conceive the logic that would lead you all to conclude that I'm trying to 'trick' everyone regarding my identity. It makes no sense. My query was absolutely honest, and was made in hopes of an equally honest reply (which has been provided by tmpffisch to some extent. Thanks).

Does anyone else have anything to add besides just pointless argument?

STOL_king 31st Jul 2009 09:42

Too many Australianisms- you've exceeded your allocation. A windup should be more convincing in future please...... still, a reasonable effort :D

Jabawocky 31st Jul 2009 10:17

Sounds more Aussie than most of us :\

Fonz121 31st Jul 2009 12:35

I know this is probably a gee up but just incase...... stay away!! Go to somewhere out of the capital cities.

smiling monkey 31st Jul 2009 13:09


Originally Posted by tmpffisch (Post 5094300)
...no no. It's still Bombay to the Indian locals.....obviously.

lol! You've been had. The city is officially known as Mumbai to locals. :E

And I can assure you that "Jonathan" is not your typical Hindi name. :E

tmpffisch 31st Jul 2009 13:19

:ugh:....I guess you couldn't detect any sarcasm. :ugh:

jono987 31st Jul 2009 15:45

A country of over a billion, colonised once by the Brits and you assume that none of us would be able to speak the language, or (our ancestors) be converted to Christianity and fall into the practice of being given Christian names.

And really, wouldn't a journalist just actually pander to your cookie cutter predispositions of an Indian?

Either way, I give up.

FourBalls 31st Jul 2009 23:34

Why are people soo unkind?:E

das Uber Soldat 1st Aug 2009 00:41

he's a tenacious little bugger this one aint he. :E

sms777 1st Aug 2009 04:48

Superior Solder
 
That's the way son....bit of fair dinkum aussie lingo will sure confuse the hell out of him. :D

GA715 1st Aug 2009 05:55

imo there's probably people pm'ing him as we speak. :suspect:

On a side note, while on the mobil ground freq a couple of days ago, I heard a liberty being denied fuel, something wrong being with the account or something. Meh.. dunno what to make of it. :hmm:

das Uber Soldat 1st Aug 2009 06:27

They've been kicked off their last fuel supplier, shell i think, and have gone back to mobil. Mobil only fuels them however if their account is in credit. Hence the rejection.

Gotta feel for those instructors, they haven't been paid since may.

May.

bizzybody 1st Aug 2009 06:48

im not trying to pick a fight but are you sure the instructors have not been paid for that long? i mean only a ****** would still be working there if they have not been paid and for that amount of time.....

GADRIVR 5th Aug 2009 01:18

Bizzybody......grow up! I know instructors who have been promised on multiple occasions that they will be paid.....and aren't!
The school owners should thank their lucky stars that the staff don't walk out enmasse over their predicament.
Typical bloody sausage factory.:ugh:

bizzybody 5th Aug 2009 05:14

Excuse Me????? Grow up??? why stay at a place on the promise of getting paid.... then another promise.......aaaaaaaand another......... how may chances do you give them.

The owner is very lucky that they have not walked out and to honest iif i were there i would have walked out.

bizzybody 5th Aug 2009 10:29

me??? no i dont.never had a flying school and never had an instructor rating. I once new someone that was going to be their chief pilot a while back thats about it but i dont know if it worked out for him

Dragun 5th Aug 2009 11:17

Interesting first question in the FAQ section of the website. Are they serious?

FAQ : Sydney Flight Training Centre

SOPS 5th Aug 2009 11:23

If you are bringing your guitar...dont come on United..as we all know United breaks guitars.:E

tmpffisch 5th Aug 2009 11:25

hahahaha, first thing I asked my instructor on the TIF was can I bring my guitar along and if I need a first aid kit...:D

KRUSTY 34 5th Aug 2009 20:16

Now this bloke sounds (reads) like a foreign student.

Take note Johnno!:ok:

GA715 6th Aug 2009 12:46

:hmm: so what's new at this place? Rumours are running wild that a couple of students were kicked out for making comments on facebook! BAHAHA Thats gold.

I'm going to go try find out what was "apparently" said. Will report back.

maniac_notty 6th Aug 2009 13:41

you are right!is just silly little things.:ok:

jono987 16th Aug 2009 17:36

For the record, I didn't join.

das Uber Soldat 17th Aug 2009 00:20

thats great new jono, we're all excited for you.

:rolleyes:

GA715 20th Sep 2009 08:01

Such a shame.
 
That you decided to not join SFTC. They would have loved to have you there...

To all Students,
As you are all aware there has been a considerable reduction in new students coming to SFTC. Whilst this is largely due to our off shore agent failing to recruit new students as contracted and a down turn in the economy, it has also been affected, of late, by negative publicity being generated by some of our current students. This sort of negative publicity significantly reduces the likelihood of new students choosing SFTC to do their pilot training. The introduction of the Fuel Maintenance Insurance Charge, as was explained in the letter you all received, has been put in place largely due to the lack of new students. The FMI will be reduced or remove entirely as soon as this situation improves. However, if potential students are turned away by our current students, who have to pay the FMI, the FMI will only stay in place longer. That is not our desire.

Despite the current economic situation, there are still many individuals, like you, who have a strong desire to be a pilot. I ask you to think about the equipment you are given to fly, the facilities you have access to, and the accommodation and transport facility that NO other school offers. We need your support in promoting your school to your friends or acquaintances that may be interested in doing their pilot training. We are working extremely hard to recruit new students however our efforts are being hampered by this negative publicity which ultimately affects all of you and only serves to lengthens the period of financial burden. If you would like to recommend any students to SFTC please pass me their contact details or send them my email address and I will forward the course material. You are our best promoters :)

Our next CPL course dates are 5 October, 9 November, 11 January and 1 March 2010. I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you and Fly Safe,


:= so to all you posters that have bagged SFTC, you guys should be ashamed, you have no strong desire to become pilots.

It is clearly, crystal clear, that whatever the situation maybe it is not the fault of SFTC. It's not like they accepted money to be paid upfront. :oh:

To prospective students, I implore you to join SFTC. :E

WIKI44 20th Sep 2009 15:27

@ga715
 
dude you are pathetic. I wonder if you are the same student who was kicked out for the FB comments?

Every single one of your posts is clearly riddled with bias and animosity towards SFTC. Whilst, I disagree with some of the things that are happening at the school and the decisions the operator is implementing, it is another thing to have a hearty laugh at the misfortunes of others and actively trying to discredit an organization.

You are using the veil of anonymity to further your own agenda. You are disgraceful.

muffman 20th Sep 2009 16:26

GA715/Wannabe :=
A lot of aviation companies are doing it tough right now and it's not in anybody's interests to take glee in their misfortune. If they do collapse, it's bad for everyone in the industry.

Charlie Foxtrot India 20th Sep 2009 16:32

Just curious, what is a Fuel Maintenance Insurance charge? IS this not already factored into the price? :confused:

GA715 20th Sep 2009 16:38

Wiki44
 
Yes yes, you can call me pathetic, disgraceful whatever to your hearts content. I have been contemplating on engaging you but tbh SFTC is just a small side thing, not really worth the effort.

Look if what I write really invokes so much pain, don't read it. I'm pretty sure there's an ignore function. Secondly if anything that I have posted is deemed inappropriate by the mods then I absolutely have no objections to it being removed.

edit: muffman, yes I am down the chain, I guess it is from this position that I have failed to see that in hindsight it was not good to glee at the misfortune of others. I really didnt think it'd be taken this seriously. :ouch:


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