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tinpis 5th Feb 2009 22:40

Plane down in the water off Nightcliff..
 
20 minutes ago...chopper hovering over light aircraft in the drink off Nightcliff
No type or ID as yet no boats to it yet...

Socket 5th Feb 2009 22:42

Just got a tip that it was a PA-31 and all got out OK, hope it was accurate.

tinpis 5th Feb 2009 22:46

Birdstrike? :rolleyes:

Socket 5th Feb 2009 22:51

just on radio, 6 pob, all walking through mud to east point. yay.

Capt Claret 5th Feb 2009 23:11

"walking across the mud flats ..."

But where are the ferries? :}

Liklik balus 5th Feb 2009 23:25

The ferries are off with the fairies!

tinpis 5th Feb 2009 23:36

The Old Coconut Grove airport hasnt been used for a while :rolleyes:

Discovery68 5th Feb 2009 23:52

White plane with Blue Tail. CSG, Frontier ?

flog 6th Feb 2009 00:03

I fly in parts where there's little in the way of mud flats, what's the technique for landing in them?

Will Robinson 6th Feb 2009 00:18

Make sure on exit you fall in the mud so the only skid marks are the ones left by the aeroplane.:E

Teal 6th Feb 2009 00:26

A bit more info from the news services....


Plane ditches in Darwin Harbour
  • Georgina Robinson
  • February 6, 2009 - 12:18PM
Six people walked away uninjured from a light plane that ditched into Darwin Harbour today.

Glenn Campbell, an Age photographer, said the aircraft made an emergency landing into shallow water about 200 metres off shore from East Point Reserve at 8.40am local time (10.10am AEDT).

"It appears the two-engine aircraft has lost power and ditched into the ocean, on tidal flats off East Point," Mr Campbell said.

"Everyone's walked away from it, the pilot walked away from the aircraft."

Northern Territory police confirmed all five passengers and the pilot were unharmed.

The men and women waded through shallow water to a picnic area where police and ambulances were waiting, a police spokeswoman said.

The plane is owned by CSG Aviation and had just taken off. It is believed it was heading to the remote community of Maningrida, about 500km east of Darwin.

"I arrived as the passengers had disembarked, just as the pilot was wading through the ocean...(it looked like) he was the last one off the plane," Mr Campbell said.

The water in which the plane landed was only about half a metre deep, he said.
CSG is a computer technology firm that flies support and maintenance into remote areas of the Northern Territory.

According to its website, CSG owns two aircraft and usually flies from Darwin International Airport.

Resident Glenn Chandler said he was having a bike ride when he spotted two council workers staring out to sea.

"Two hundred metres off shore there's just this plane sitting in the harbour with water up to its wings and half a dozen people are standing around next to it in water up to their waists, sort of scratching their heads," Mr Chandler said.

"Then they just slowly dawdled back to shore...chatting amongst themselves, it was quite a surreal thing.

"Obviously no one was hurt because there was no panic or anything."

SmoothCriminal 6th Feb 2009 00:48

Oh Lord !! Good to see everyone walked or swam away..... lucky was off 29er.... have a drink and chill out guys, whatever the reason shall be, it's a bloody good outcome and might see you all in the evening at the deck for a friday splash !

Smoothie....:ok:

Capt Fathom 6th Feb 2009 00:52

Photos here courtesy SMH

You'd think he would have closed the hatch before he left. Don't want water getting into it! :E

ZEEBEE 6th Feb 2009 01:26


"Then they just slowly dawdled back to shore...chatting amongst themselves, it was quite a surreal thing.
With the number of Crodociles around that place, I don't believe that I'd be doing too much in the way of "dawdling"

Be a shame to survive that and then wind up on the menu. :eek:

Ex FSO GRIFFO 6th Feb 2009 01:29

I'm with you Capt Fathom.....

Luckily the water appears to be about 1/3 of a fathom....but what is the tide doing??

I reckon I would have closed the door too!!
Might as well try to minimise the damage.....not really 'waterproof' doors I know, but......'minimum' damage is good ......

Otherwise, ALL out OK - so, Excellent result in the circumstances.

Cheers.

tinpis 6th Feb 2009 01:36

There is a marker on it and it is now covered by tide
I expect the coppers will divvy up the mudcrabs at 10.26 low tide tomorrow morning :uhoh:

Pluto's gone 6th Feb 2009 01:36

Looks like a popular place to "land".

So thats one there on approach years ago and one on take off today.

I suppose at least the one near East Point is only a short stroll to the Sailing CLub for a beer or two.

Good job to swim away. One more PA31 out of the system, surely this one won't be rebuilt?

ozaggie 6th Feb 2009 01:46

C'mon people, wheres the piccies?

Mr Brewster 6th Feb 2009 01:48

Aux tanks indeed. Lets stick to the facts.

"The aeroplane came over really low, it was making funny sounds"
"The engine stalled"
"The pilot fought with the controls"
"The aeroplane plunged towards the water, passengers were screaming, the pilot pulled up just in time"
"It was Canadian geese that got lost"

That should do it, now lets wait for the NT News.

Brian Abraham 6th Feb 2009 01:52

Interesting the report says "He said on take-off they experienced some loss of power in one of the engines and he followed all the procedures and shut the engine down and wasn't able to return to the field so he had to put down on the beach" but appears to have nothing feathered. Just an observation, nothing more.

KRviator 6th Feb 2009 01:53

Anyone notice the title of the SMH Article?

Sully "Lite" 'cool' pilot Steve's Darwin ditching drama...:D

tinpis 6th Feb 2009 01:55

So far the NT Eggtimer has managed to squeeze in the crocs :rolleyes:

Plane crashes off Darwin beach - Northern Territory News

framer 6th Feb 2009 02:03


but appears to have nothing feathered.
Brian, where are the photos that show that? I can only find the one photo.

cjam 6th Feb 2009 02:14

The pax were lucky they had someone with experience up the front.
I only hope you didn't "smash bottle" .
Good work Bolle.

Pluto's gone 6th Feb 2009 02:19

Speaking of which and one must not assume, but one must think that something must have gone extremely wrong for a dude with many many many hours on type to have such a problem and not get back to the black stuff.

It would have been a heavy Chief with 6 pob and probably return fuel?

strim 6th Feb 2009 02:43

Great outcome. Well done.

I don't have much confidence in heavy PA31's climbing at all on one donk.

If there's favourable terrain ahead, land while it's still controllable.

cjam 6th Feb 2009 03:51

Having flown with he pilot in question, I would be very surprised if he didn't carry out all required actions quickly and calmly.

tinpis 6th Feb 2009 04:16

Northern Territory News - Plane crash off East Point

Stationair8 6th Feb 2009 04:41

I thought you would be on TV, calling for the airport to be closed and you fear for your life everyday!!

Gee imagine if it had crashed into the Bagot Road community, could have lost thousand's of traditional owners and their dogs.

Natit 6th Feb 2009 04:42

Pilots initials?

Capt Fathom 6th Feb 2009 04:44


Pilots initials?
The pilot is named in several newspaper links, all posted here!!

ringbinder 6th Feb 2009 05:47

Framer, click on the NT News link in posts No. 22, then in that article, click on "see our pictures of the crash ". About 10 or eleven shots to look at , one or two of which are from where BA possibly makes his observations. Just pointing you in the right direction after your question, not commenting at all on the incident.

You rock 6th Feb 2009 06:12

Great job bollee, well done mate, good to hear everyone is ok. How have things been mate its been some years since we shared a beer

sms777 6th Feb 2009 06:28

Good outcome and well done to the pilot! :D
On the lighter side ...... where were the bloody crocs this time? Have they taken a day off or something? :suspect:
Hey tinpis, you must have an answer to that one! ;)

pa60ops 6th Feb 2009 06:43

This story cant be complete surely without either the crocs or a rogue great white??? Great outcome all the same - pax + pilot walk away. Fantastic.

Desert Flower 6th Feb 2009 07:54


I don't have much confidence in heavy PA31's climbing at all on one donk.
Particularly if they've been fitted with a VG kit!

DF.

Nose wheel first 6th Feb 2009 08:20

Hear Hear Desert Flower.

Well done Mr Bolle:ok::ok::ok:

Howard Hughes 6th Feb 2009 09:39

Well done that man!:ok:

I wonder if he will now get an offer from Sir Dick?;)

Grogmonster 6th Feb 2009 11:14

They will climb
 
DF,

From personal experience I can tell you they will climb. I had one die on me a few years back. It didn't do much after I feathered it until I remembered to split the ball and put 5 degrees bank into the good engine plus shut the cowl flap. After that it was all good. I had 8 pax and 3 hours fuel so a fair bit of weight but to be fair it was only about 28 degrees OAT.

werbil 6th Feb 2009 12:10

Wally - where are you? Tell me again about how a second donk will always get you out of trouble? How dangerous SE turbine is? At least the van at Townsville last year was able to be flown back to a runway.

.....

To the pilot - nice ditching - great outcome for the those on board. Considered a seaplane rating? You've already got one water landing in the log book.:ok:


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