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L29 Overrun at North Shore NZ

Damaged plane removed after runway crash - National - NZ Herald News
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A large number of fire fighters were at the scene, and had applied foam as a precaution, Mr Phillips said.
I'm curious...does the foam cause any damage to the aircraft and/or engine at all? Is it essential for smother the aircraft "as a precaution" or are the boys getting a little carried away, when the aircraft came to a suitable halt from which the pilot could easily walk away and no leaking fluids etc?

I haven't seen a pic of the aircraft but it sounds like the damage was minimal, happy to be corrected if that was not the case...

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there was no foam used. .
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Wouldn't NE be a bit marginal for an L29? Even on a perfect day?
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I watched that thing do circuits at whangarei on a warm day - looked very bloody marginal there too!
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I've watched it doing circuits at Ardmore a few times - needless to say the initial climb rate seems to leave a little to be desired. The owner has another one, -SSU. Damage doesn't look too bad in the photo although I suppose pictures don't always tell the whole story.
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Grrr

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Nobody made me Thread Prefect but...

If I wanted to read an unsubstantiated rant
(I heard....... the rumor was...... probably went thru the firewall cause he was .....)

I really would prefer half-decent spelling and grammar:

1. Try to use complete sentences (the first word generally starts with a capital letter; the sentence is often considered best ended with a full stop).
2. Try to use the words that don't make the sentence nonsense e.g don't use "cause" when you mean "because".

Apart from the English your post was pretty much a waste of bandwidth, better off in Jetblast or R&N.
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Did you see the original Herald article? Did you see the picture on it?



Only with Aunty Herald - that is not jet powered, it is not Czech made, it is not a military aircraft and it is not all that vintage. (Picture pinched from another forum, but seeing as it's now been changed...)
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mattathm is having week off
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mattathm is having week off
Only a week!!!!!!!!

Judging from many of his/her other posts one could be forgiven if the time in the Sin Bin wasn't quite bit longer.
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"Wouldn't NE be a bit marginal for an L29? Even on a perfect day?"

It would seem so.

Talk to the GBA boys about getting a cherokee 6 out of there on a warm day, let alone a low powered jet. would be interesting to see the performance figures.
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That piece of s**t and it's owner will hopefully go somewhere far far away and not put any one elses life at risk......

Brake failure - yeah right........an arrestor hook wouldn't have stopped that thing!
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Only a week!!!!!!!!

Judging from many of his/her other posts one could be forgiven if the time in the Sin Bin wasn't quite bit longer.
Yes well, from what I saw he was a bit trollish if I ever saw it, and I've only been here 5 minutes

Dairy Flat is hardly the longest runway around. If he was told he shouldn't be trying it, he shouldn't have tried it.
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From what I've heard and seen in a past newspaper article (North Shore Times Advertiser) .. the owner is a reasonably new PPL....
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Inexperienced rich boys and their toys... the continuing saga...

Slightly off-topic - wasn't the SSS rego worn by a Grumman Cougar? Anyone know what happened to it?
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Yes that piece of junk is now Registered PAP but as of about a month ago has been grounded due corrosion on the main spar or similar and will never fly in the skys of nz again. Thank god
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Yeah..being parted out on trademe last month..

..in defence of Mattathm..from what I've heard from other sources..everything he said about the owner is true.

..give him a break Mods..he has Tourettes in his fingers
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Did my multi Instrument rating in that piece of junk, 20-odd years ago. Horribly underpowered, but it did have a decent flight director and AP, Was pretty spiffy in those days (compared to say a Seneca 1 or an Aztec).
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Re: Sss, Tad?, Pap

Sorry for further thread drift

that piece of junk is now Registered PAP
will never fly in the skys of nz again. Thank god
Did my multi Instrument rating in that piece of junk, 20-odd years ago
Only flew it once, about 9 years ago. Seemed to me to be an OK aircraft especially as a multi IFR trainer, true not over powered, but certainly wouldn't have called it a heap of junk. Amazing how our perceptions differ.
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Without intentionally drifting the thread further, it just ain't worth it's own thread, sorry

It might have been ok 9 years ago but isn't the best machine around now. Always breaking down, parts are hard to come by so out of the air a lot, things not working, things falling off, shabby this, ripped that etc etc need I go on ??

There would be more knobs/leavers/buttons etc in that plane without their handles/knobs whatever that there would be with them on

And to top it all off, it has been replaced by none other than VH-MEP, for those that know that old chariot
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