There must be some positives to the ASIC ?

So an extract of entry of birth certificate was fine for initial issue, yet now for a renewal its not?:mad:

Requiring a "full birth certificate" (simply a births deaths and marriages cash cow scam in itself:ugh:)

Is it just me or is this a bit redundant!, my birth details have hardly changed in the last 2 years!:D

All in the name of "Security"

ASIC Initial Issue
 

G'day all...

Just FYI

I sent my application for initial issue of ASIC just before Christmas, but due to the break that most offices had over that period, it wasnt looked at until 3 Jan. Have just been told that my card has been sent and should arrive in a few days. Thats about 3.5 weeks. Not too shabby. Did it through Aviation ID Australia.

:D


BJ

I once heard a young pilot I worked with say that it may help pick up chicks but then again he would'nt want any chick who could be that gullible!:E

As for a serious answer to your question; I doubt it!

I must be VERY, VERY clean. Posted application 9th Jan 2008, got it by registered post 24th Jan 2008. Maybe my money is better than yours.

Completed my application online about the 28th December with Aviation ID and posted documents the next day. Received the new ASIC today.

SPL issued 4 Dec 07... i guess i posted the application about 2 weeks before...
reading msn chat logs about it, I think i posted the application around the 18th of November.

Still waiting for ASIC..
I got home from Italy today expecting it to be there... but... yeah..so thats over 2 months gone by (I posted the application for SPL/ASIC to CASA..).
Ill keep y'all up to date.

No Word on the status of the ASIC either.

Is there a number I can phone to inquire about the status of my ASIC?

Got mine today.

Posted 10th or 11th Jauary
Recieved 4th February

VERY happy with Aviation ID Australia.

Got mine today.

So tell us Chadzat, what did you do for ASIC on Feb 1, 2 and 3?

Dr :8

So... apparently, the ASIC serves no purpose what so-ever... except to waste peoples time and money.

Oh Doc, I still went to work- but kept my Dr Martins at least 1cm from any airside zone at all times. As my Boss is the understanding type- I was still paid full wages for not actually flying any aircraft because as we all know if I had put a foot onto that tarmac, the big red light in CASA HQ would have gone off letting them know that my little red card had gone into 'the zone' while 2 days expired. SAS troops and Tiger attack helicopters would have then appeared from behind the NJS hangar and I would have been shot in situ. My photo would then be on the front cover of every national newspaper the next day with the headline "CONSIRACY TO CONDUCT TERROR" and a photo of a PA31 with cruise missiles attached (computer altered file photo of course). My life would be over. :ugh:

If you must know Doc- I flew each of those days! :}

To clear up any mis-quoting of government organisations :* replace CASA with dotars in my short jocular conversation...I mean rant

I really wish people would stop going on about CASA and ASICs in the same breath.:ugh::ugh::ugh:

CASA do not legislate the ASIC requirement nor do they police it and from my experience, they couldn't care less about it. They are merely an issuing authority like every other security contolled airport in the country as well as airlines and other industry participants.

Chadzat was probably just having a joke...

but, Yes, it seems CASA gets blamed for more then it deserves.
There are many CASA people who are private pilots themselves and they seem to care about Oz Aviation.

"but, Yes, it seems CASA gets blamed for more then it deserves"

Not possible!

CASA, the disorganisation and some/many/most individuals within it, deserve all the crap we can dump on them!

Dr :8

Bring on the Royal Commission!

FTDK.... Well, dont keep us in suspense... over to Jet Blast and tell us about your trails and tribulations with CASA.

CASA could have, and SHOULD HAVE stood up to DOTARS and said "no - this is a waste of time and we will not permit it".

They didnt, and instead started accepting peoples money for the bloody things. Thats tantamount to being an accessory. Bad CASA.


In other news, my first ASIC was issued by CASA, but when it expired, I renewed it through my local airport. CASA never contacted me for a return of the expired card, so rather than just post it back to them (who knows WHO might open the envelope once it gets to Woden!), I think I'll hold on to it until they actually request it, and provide a means for me to return it to them that is at least as secure as how they gave it to me.

Perhaps I should entrust it to Qantas security in Mascot, then tell CASA it's "available for collection between 9am and 4pm, weekdays".

Lasiothorus,
I'm sorry but I can't understand your way of thinking regarding this. CASA probabably didn't want to become an issuing authority for ASICs any more than I or the other airport operators around the country did. We had it shoved down our throats. I can tell you without fear of contradiction that most of the delays in getting ASICs processed and back to applicants are well and truly out of the issuing bodies hands.

To suggest anyone could or should have said "no - this is a waste of time and we will not permit it". is in dire need of a reality check.

Yes you can hold onto your expired ASIC or pursue any other childish games you may like but remember that should your name be flagged on the AUSCHECK system for ANY reason, and that includes non-compliance with ASIC legislation, you might find your current card being cancelled and return demanded. Then having to go through a lot of pus and pain to get it back all because of mis-directed anger.

Application send 18th November 2007
Recieved yesterday: 4th Feb 2008...

but hey...
YAY!!! my first ASIC, i'll take good care of it :).. Though with that photo it probably makes me look more like one of those 'bad people'.

People should not be afraid of their governments.
Governments should be afraid of their people.

Brings back Memories of V for Vendetta...