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Old 6th Jan 2008, 11:10
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ASIC Renewal in 3 weeks

Posted the paperwork to renew my ASIC to Aviation ID Australia yesterday (5 January), having decided to give Cretins Against Safe Aviation a miss.

Whoever is responsible for this abomination should be sacked! I could suggest other things to do to them but that might be seen as inciting violence etc and delay the renewal.

Cost me $182 + $30 for new passport size photos - I haven't changed much!

Sent a new certified copy of the same passport that I sent a certified copy of last time.

Sent a new certified copy of the same driver's licence that I sent a certified copy of last time.

Sent a copy of the latest rendition (including crappy photo ID) of the same pilot's licence that I have held for the last 35 years.

Gave the same address that I have lived at for the last 22 years.

Given that I have severely restricted my terrorist activities in the last few years, I expect minimal delay with the renewal.

Will post when the new one arrives.

Dr

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Old 6th Jan 2008, 11:22
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Good luck!

Went through CASA this time (not sure if that was a good thing or not) but was kind of pleased to see the card arrive five weeks later, even though it wasnt a renewal.

Certainly beats their last effort of 8 months, and then only having the card valid for 16months when it was finally issued.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 11:33
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Mines due shortly, can anyone say whether Aviation ID or CASA is a better option???
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 11:46
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My existing ASIC due to expire in Dec 07, I gathered all the required documentation, crossed all the Ts, dotted all the Is, double-checked the photos were annotated and signed by the JP, made sure I had filled in all the forms correctly with supporting documentation, wrote out the cheque and posted it off to Aviation ID Australia.

Approx four weeks later my brand new ASIC arrived. No fuss, no delays, no hassles. Works great for check-in at DJ counter, never had mine looked at at my local airport, not even during APEC! Still, we gotta have one, so have one we must! Posted the expired one back to them in the pre-paid envelope supplied.

Aviation ID Australia really do know what they are doing. I refer all enquiries about getting an ASIC to them. Highly recommended!
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 11:58
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I was going to use Aviation ID Australia, checked their website and it appeared as if the people who could certify documents was very restrictive compared to the list on the CASA website.

In fairness I emailed them to enquire if the "usual suspects" (in my case the local postmaster) was indeed able to certify said documents etc; I am hoping they received my email, I never received a response.

In the end far easier for me to go via CASA - also one of the original benefits of using ID Australia, the cost differential, has almost disappeared.
I am certainly not saying CASA was a better option but personally far easier than it appeared it was going to be with ID Australia.

Posted off the week before Xmas (not the best time of the year), a renewal not initial issue, be interesting to see how long to process.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 12:32
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OK, I sent mine to Aviation ID Australia yesterday; galdian sent his to Cretins Against Safe Aviation the week before Xmas - both are renewals, we will see how they go.

galdain, can you post here when you get your new ID?

Dr

PS: I had no trouble getting the documents certified. The local JPs man a stand at the various shopping centres around the town on a variety of days. Got all the documents certified in a few minutes when I stopped off for my morning coffee fix. Great community service!
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 12:47
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Great community service!
Thanks Doc, its nice to get a good rap every now and then.

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Old 6th Jan 2008, 19:07
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both are renewals,
The problem with the system is, they will be treated as initial issues!

Evry police station and court house will havea JP, don't be scared they don't bite!
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 19:26
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Mines due shortly, can anyone say whether Aviation ID or CASA is a better option???
Another thread on this topic here. The price differential between CASA and AVID Australia has all but disappeared. Mine took 45 days from AVID.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 21:27
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I just went to do my renewal with AviationID and saw this on the application type page -
Please Note: You should only select a Renewal Application Type if your current ASIC Card was issued through Aviation ID Australia.
I obtained mine originally through casa, anyone know what the story is?
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 21:38
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I think you'll find that CASA has off-loaded all it's ASIC process to Aviation ID.
I got my last one from them and it took around 2-3 weeks. They were fairly easygoing and pleasant to deal with. Don't know what they'll be like with the extra CASA workload.
If you have digital camera, do your own photos. Email them as well as posting.
This was my first ASIC with them, as my previous ones were issued by Q**T*S. One would hope that the renewal process would a bit easier than the initial issue.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 21:41
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Aviation ID might be offering a discount for return customers. THere is also a difference with Auscheck in that if your details are in their system after the migration from the previous AFP check then they will process the background check slightly cheaper but only by a few bucks.

One big delay with the ASIC process is actually getting the cards printed. Mine have taken anywhere from 2 to 33 days with an average of 21 days. Auchecks are taking on average 10 - 14 days despite the fact that the whole process is now completed electronically. The silly season has not helped with one Auscheck request having been with them for nearly 3 weeks. I don't give a frig about their Christmas leave - I want my bloody applications processed for which the punters are paying a premium. At least they date the clearance from the day they actually issue and forward by email the clearance.

There is a new Issuing Authority on the horizon that might be able to speed up this process a bit.

FTDK - $30.00 for passport pics - they must have seen you coming. Surely you have a digital camera and colour printer.

As I mentioined before, just about every security controlled airport in the country is now an issuing authority and can issue ASICs to anyone having a requirement, although they may chose to restrict this to pilots who are based at their airfield. I guess this is fair enough as the processing of these things can be quite onerous. The advantage though is that if you get your local airport to process for you and you take the documents in yourself, you do not need to have them certified as you are presenting the originals.
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 21:52
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Aviation ID did mine and took 5 weeks. All pretty easy, doing the application online. Just plain crazy how you have to do all the certified documentation again. I took several copies this time to make it easier next time. Didn't have to pay $30 for the passport photos though FTDK
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Old 6th Jan 2008, 23:48
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Regarding persons able to certify documents I am in the country, was looking for passport renewal a while ago and the passport info page clearly indicates a whole bunch of people - the easiest was the local postmaster whom was duly utilised, all too easy.

ID Australia's home page lists very few compared with CASA's list and NOT the local postmaster so starting to get all to hard so ID Australia lost out to CASA because it was easier.

If indeed ID Australia's list is the same as CASA's (as it should be, surely??) they could do themselves a huge commercial favour and update their homepage to reflect this ( of course this would probably only assist the village idiots like myself however still a substantial potential market; not every village has only one idiot! )

FTDK - will report upon receipt as requested.

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Old 7th Jan 2008, 19:25
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Pardon my ignorance.
For an initial issue ASIC card what is the difference between RED or GREY?
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Old 7th Jan 2008, 19:52
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".... what is the difference between RED or GREY?"

THIS IS RED!
THIS IS GREY!

Dr

PS: Beggared if I know! Are the grey ones aerodrome specific?

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Old 7th Jan 2008, 20:39
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Up to your usual High standards, PPRuNe would be dreary without you DR.
Your posts allways good for a smile
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Old 7th Jan 2008, 21:03
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Red background is valid for all security areas at an airport.
Grey is for landside security areas only. Don't see too many of this type though.
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Old 7th Jan 2008, 21:20
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".... what is the difference between RED or GREY?"

THIS IS RED!
THIS IS GREY!
I wonder how many thousands of dollars and how many consultants and contractors it took CASA to decide which colours would be used for the ASICs?
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Old 7th Jan 2008, 21:39
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CASA didn't decide it DOTARS did
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