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Jet_A_Knight 19th Oct 2007 23:48

Veg Corndog, do you hold any other qualifications that might be on the Australian 'wanted' list??:ok:

If you do, that might be an 'angle' to get in via a 457 visa.

Or, if you are really keen, you might go get yourself one of those qualifications and then apply?:ugh:

That's alot of brain damage - depends how much it means to come here.

You don't want to go through all of that, only to find out that it really is only some second rate 54th State of the USA:{

nomorecatering 20th Oct 2007 00:10

The more cynical of us would say that vegascorndog being white, educated, fairly young, healthy, speaks fluent english, financially independant and emminently employable...........stands no chance of immigrating. Much better chance if you discuise yourself as an Asian refugee with no English or work skills.....oh and come on a boat and you're "In like Flyn"..especialy if Mr Ruddock and his left wing union thug mates get in at the next election.

One thing to learn about Aussies, if they are polite to you, then they just tolerate you. But...if they give you a hard time, that means your accepted as one of us. Comes from our colonial past. Seriously, Aussies dont care who you are or where you came from, if you're a good bloke then you will have no problems. Have several American friends who have moved here and highly value their friendship.

Good luck.

Jet_A_Knight 20th Oct 2007 00:17


Much better chance if you discuise yourself as an Asian refugee with no English or work skills.....oh and come on a boat and you're "In like Flyn"..especialy if Mr Ruddock and his left wing union thug mates get in at the next election.
But better spelling skills than you no more catering.:hmm:

As you can see, Corndog, we have people here you would find the equivalent of deep in the back roads of Arkansaw or Mississippi.

Except here they dress up as 'easy going, tolerant Aussies' .

If you're looking to escape that sort of ugliness - try Sweden (maybe).

Unfortunately, we're all stocked up here.:ugh:

OpsNormal 20th Oct 2007 02:32


... oh and come on a boat and you're "In like Flynn".. Especialy if Mr Ruddock and his left wing union thug mates....
* My bold.

You are referring to two opposing sides of the political arena NMC. I was under the impression that Philip Ruddock was a member of the Liberal party and as such the union movement of Australia was more "in bed" with the other major political force in the country... Unless of course there is another Mr. Ruddock involved in politics with an agenda that none of the voters of this country are aware of yet (please enlighten us NMC)?

FYI NMC... The Attorney General

nomorecatering 20th Oct 2007 12:40

Well spotted the deliberate mistake , that should have read Mr Rudd.

Rednecks here?, I dont think so, just an aussie who can read between the lines. It was admitted by senior officials in the Hawke and Keating governments that the family reunion scheeme was aimed at attracting people who had no chance of employent and would of course become labour voters. .

At the same time, a family friend who wanted to bring his 5 million pound annual tunover company to Oz from Great Britain was knocked back on his Oz emmigration application.

So what is one to think.

Read the book ..Ämong the Barbarians by Paul Sheean, will open your eyes to whats been going on

Jet_A_Knight 20th Oct 2007 14:17

Aussie proud - no wogs allowed
 
Completely uncalled for:ugh::mad:

Much Ado.

nomorecatering 20th Oct 2007 16:13

Oh grow up mate, geez. Its really boring to listen to people who bring out the racism card everytime something doesnt go their way.

Anyone who knows me well would tell you I am about the least racist person around. My best mate is a Samoan, my circle of friends(male and female) includes Tongans, Kiwis, both Maori and White, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Italians, Americans, Candians, even Poms(dispite them not being able to field a decent cricket team ha ha).

My circle of school friends is predominantly of Chineese decent. of course not to forget the usual bag of Aussies. I dont think of any of them by their nationality or background, just who they are as people.

I look after my young students, who might I add are Chineese nationals like my own sons, and many have become good mates, so the race card realy doesnt wash with me. Sir!!

I am sick of people appling the race arguement to situations it simply doesnt belong. Moreover, the race card is now used simply as a barganing tool to leverage an unfair advantage in negotiations when ordinary Aussies "9of all backgrouds) fear being branded "racist".

An example of this is illustrated in Paul Sheeans book, among the Barbarians. In Sydney's Chinatown, there is a building code that restricts the hight of buildings to a limit of 3 stories. That height limit was in force long before Chinatown was a twinkle in the eye of its creator.

A prominent property developer, who was Chinese put a development application in to the Sydney City Council for a 27 story residental building which was refused by the council on the grounds that it exceeded the height restriction. He then tried to get it approved through the courts claiming "racist policies by the council were unfairly hindering his business", and the only reason it was not being approved was because of his nationality.

Happily, the case was thrown out of court with the judge specifically citing that the zoning regulations of that sector applied EQUALLY to every one, regardles of race, colour or creed.

By the way, Mein Kamp is a book that chamions the idea that one race is inherrently superior to another on the BASIS of race. That IS racism, an ideal that I find repugnant.

Sal-e 22nd Oct 2007 18:16

Some airlines (VB) accept an Oz ATPL with a pass in ATPL Flight Planning (which also happens to have the highest fail rate at 80%) and not a converted foreign licence. Don't tell me why, but they don't make it easy for outsiders.

VegasCorndog 25th Oct 2007 02:09

Hmmm, this debate sounds eerily familiar. In the U.S., the issue is complicated by the fact that there are 12 million immigrants here illegally. According to the most impartial reports I've read (those are hard to find!), they provide a net benefit to the economy, but they're breaking the law in doing so. Deporting them all is literally impossible, if it were even desirable. Overlying every thought, apparently, is the 9/11-heightened xenophobic paranoia that seems to find its way into every facet of our lives now. :hmm: Anyway, sorry for pulling the pin on this particular sh!t grenade. The concensus opion I'm hearing here is that I'm pretty much SOL. Too bad. Despite the apparently similar internal political differences in Oz, I can't imagine your country embarassing itself on a global scale and going directly against its founding principles, as mine has done in the last four years. I'll still come to visit! Take that as a threat or a promise at your discretion! :)

pakeha-boy 25th Oct 2007 06:47

Vegas...what a pussy!!!.....was in your shoes 28 yrs ago......married a shelia ,got the greenie...life is good /..work both sides of the continent,,,,,if your smart you will do the same thing...

....there are many unsuspecting Oz/kiwi shelias that will shag/bonk and procure you in one foul swoop...grow some balls....do not rely on this forum to forfill your destiny.....its amazing how youth today has such small go-nads:(:(

Jet_A_Knight 25th Oct 2007 07:57


Despite the apparently similar internal political differences in Oz, I can't imagine your country embarassing itself on a global scale and going directly against its founding principles, as mine has done in the last four years. I'll still come to visit! Take that as a threat or a promise at your discretion!
Believe me, the current government has been doing its best in that department.

51st state? Australia? Nah............:rolleyes:

2b2 25th Oct 2007 11:55


I look after my young students,

not English (or Politics) students, I hope! ;)

VegasCorndog 28th Feb 2008 01:32

Thread revival:
 
So, I got on the website of the Australian Dep't of Immigration and Citizenship & found "Pilot" on the "Skilled Occupations List". Is that a new turn of events? Could this do anything for me?

By the way, I'd like to finally thank the contributors here. MayFly135s in particular . . . yours is the type of familiarity I would be hard-pressed to find anywhere else. To everyone, though . . . thank you!

marty1468 28th Feb 2008 02:58

Hi vegascorn dog

Yep that would be a new turn of events. I emailed a mate of mine in the UK about it a month or so ago.

M

geeup 22nd Mar 2011 01:47

Anyone ever converted a FAA instructor rating to a CASA one?

CAT1approach 22nd Mar 2011 12:37

Mayfly,

Cheers mate. Great post.

I think I'll just do some time building in the U.S.
and get my ratings here.

If you've been here since 07 you'd be aware of the Australian Yobo.

Jet A Knight- your a d&@? Head. Fair Dinkum.


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FRQ Charlie Bravo 22nd Mar 2011 15:21

VegasCorndog,

It may be worth looking to see if your wife holds a qualification that will help get the family a visa on her merits. Then you, as a dependent, can usually work wherever you like (as long as she maintains her employment).

FRQ CB


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