Hi Chuck

The a/c was a 96 model I think, and I used some generic Ratheon data I could find for a 2001 model, and as you point out air con plus goodness nknows what else, so either way it was on its limits at best it seems.

And a very good lesson on how when all is at the limits and temperature and altitude is high.......she aint going to leap into the air with any startiling prformance.

C of G can really be an issue, the plane may well be fine a few KG overweight, but aft C of G is going to make it interesting:eek:

J

PF, yes a C210 would have romped it in...but you'd be ready to slash your wrists by about the time he crashed:E

I must admit, I've never flown a Bonanza so I have no idea what it is you guys love so much. I've ridden in a Debonair and I have a couple of Baron hours but that's it.

"I must admit, I've never flown a Bonanza"
Peter, you poor bastard, you haven't lived.

Chimbu & Notmyc152 :D very humourous regarding C210 (army blitz's that happen to fly)

In regard to the Bonanza crash, my calculations are similar to Chimbu's. The main unknown variables being BEW, fuel on board and PAX weight. If these parameters were high, combined with a tail wind, and hot and high
day, and reefing the thing off only 2/3rds down the strip.. and then trying to resist poling back as the terrain rises up at you.. maybe that is what caused it..

A big real life lesson for me:uhoh:

Maybe so, but how many of you have flown the mighty Fuji FA-200-160 Aero Subaru? :ok:

"I have a couple of Baron hours but that's it"

If you have flown a Baron, then you have flown a Bonza! Handle very much the same IMHO - as long as both donks are running.

Well, except for the V35 - acknowledged as having the best control "feel" of all the lighties.

C210 ? Don't get me wrong - I think they are a good bush workhorse, but ........... did I tell you about the day I stepped from the V35 into a C210 (one up) and when it came time to rotate on TO from a fairly short strip (Jaba knows it!) had a moment of anxiety cause the control force required was so great relative to the V35B that I thought I had left the control lock in? Two hands on the wheel and a big pull back saved the day!

Dr :cool:

Is that why those trees are a bit shorter than the rest:E

J

Me, many moons ago.

I;ve been inand out of Cameron Park about half a dozen times. last time was in a Duchess. Runway is plently long but as the field is located in a bowl, with the usual airflow in that area its sinking over the airfield so climb performance is usuall pretty anemic. In the summer it can get very very hot.

Love the field, only place where you can drive down the st and have to give way to a Cessna 441. have a great pic of a house with garage, inside a mercedes, Porsche 911 and TBM700 parked side by side.

Ah, to only win lotto.

Maybe so, but how many of you have flown the mighty Fuji FA-200-160 Aero Subaru?

An Aero Subaru eh? Not heard of such a machine!

Does it fly like a Brumby ute or like a WRX?

Fa-200-160
 

Here are pictures of several foreign examples.

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...nct_entry=true

I don't think there's too many in Australia, VH-FJA being the one I flew.

Me too. Still got the manual somewhere.

I got into trouble for mentioning the mighty C210 in this sacred thread and now they're talking about some funny Japanese spam can and nobody says a thing about it ... mumblemumblemumble ... no justice in the world today ... mumblemumblemumble ... promoting a culture of double standards ... mumblemumblemumble. Lucky we're pilots and are used to it. :ok:

A FUJI 180hp,described as " Rare and Magnifcient" is currently advertised in the Trader for the princely sum of $135,000 + GST.

KingToad

You can be forgiven, just write out 100 times..........;)

J

:yuk::yuk::yuk:

Damn thing looks like a cross between a Tomahawk and a Grob and resembles something George Jeston would fly

I can assure you it's nowhere near as fast as anything Capt Jetson would be found flying.

The only Beech worth a damn :{ And no rubber (strings) between you and the object of your desire :p

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...7/batc0003.jpg

Saufley Field, Florida 1967