Air NZ Interviews
 

Apparantly calls went out for interviews in 3 weeks.

Anyone know where the candidates that were invited are coming from, hours & qualifications??

Interested to know where one sits in the ballpark, if at all!

Cheers


S2K

I have heard that most of the boys and girls they have picked out for interviews are kiwis working overseas, already with a bit of jet time to their name.
(I did hear this third hand, so could be all s**t).


For that matter If there is anyone out there who knows how Air NZs "point system" works I would love to hear all about it. I understand Nepotism is alive and well, so for those of us without any whanau working there how do we get our names to the top of the list?


Cheers

You get points for your rating, CPL, CPL + all ATPL writtens, most points for your ATPL already, also off flight time and experience. Not to sure on the fine details. I believe the pilots already in the pool should be starting soon. No idea when next round of interviews will be.

Cheers n8pilot.
Is it true you get lots of points if you went to university??

I know some long suffering soles have finnaly been given starts soon.

One 747 course end of April for 4. Another end of May for another 4 and 4 to start on the 777 in June.

As for the points, uni does add points but so to does other Tertiary study or trade qualifications

Calls went out again today, for June interview.

Had a PM from a mate in the UK who got a call last week, but he's just settled into Easyjet on the airbus so declined. Interesting point though... he hadn't updated with Air NZ since 2004.

Other points categories I've heard of is.... max points for 5000TT and also a experience v age one. One colleague was told "unofficially" that he was losing a point each year for being over 40.

Good luck to those getting the call.

S2K

How many at each interview? Did anybody from in New Zealand get a call?? Know 2 guys with overseas adresses got called. One is coming back....the other is fishing..!Points system like S2000 says i believe......degree=max points, 5000 hours(not sure thats exact)=max points. Nepotism(horsesh**)Not so sure about the age versus experience thing though....Good luck to all

Know of 1 from Eagle (Capt) and 1 from Air NSN (F/O) so far

Points deducted for age?

Sounds discriminatory to me. Dangerous territory.

"Points deducted for age?
Sounds discriminatory to me. Dangerous territory."
Thats why no one will ever know exactly how the system works. Only Big M little organ will ever know that process.
Nepotism certainly is not alive and well. The whole interview process was designed to prevent the old crustys getting there mates mistresses bast*d son from getting in.
I know of two MC FO's who have a start and one that has an interview in May.
Good luck, and if your on the 400 see you in Wan Chai.

My understanding of the point system, and I have nothing to do with recruitment is;
+Nepotism is Dead, no longer a factor for getting a job
+Age doesn't come into the equation, it is experience so if you have 10,000 hrs you are believed to be around 40ish.
+University degrees gives extra points. PhD may deduct point = an academic
+Qualifications eg LAME helps


The point requirements for being selected for an interview varies. It varies depending on what Air NZ is looking for in their pilots. Do they want older guys, to fill a void, are they looking for management pilots, or line drivers.

Best of luck for all of you waiting for a call.

Centurion - I thought I taught you better than hang out around Wan Chai!!!:cool:

who do I address my cover letter to?Can't find any info on their website. Cheers

From a very good source I've heard that education is one of the points categories and anything short of a degree you don't get many points. Jet experience is good, but not neccessarily essential. But I've also heard that they were looking at changing the points system as it is antiquated - still hasn't changed, not likely to either.

Selection process update
 

Having performed the search of the database with little success, would anybody have an update of the selection process being used at present. PM or info here would be highly appreciated

TIA
Kanger

What about 50, ATPL 3,000 total (2500 multi), ex AME, ex flight service, Masters Degree in Aviation Management? I know the years are against me but is insurmountable?

So is Grovell out of the recruiting scene these days. If he is still on the scene I would recommend liberal lashings of ass licking in order to secure said position:p

I'm confused. Are they hiring or firing? now that the hiring is all on, are they still 'asking' crew to take several years unpaid leave??? what a circus! :rolleyes:

They were overstocked on Capt's and F/O's on the B767 fleet which is slowly being phased out, but very short of second officers.

Instead of down-training people they offered LWOP to those they were overstocked with and are now hiring for the short second officer rank.

Possibly all evened out when the 787 arrives and the LWOP chaps return from the sandpit and the orient.

S2K

So are there many boys and girls out there with interviews??

Hi there. First post.

Air NZ are interviewing for active positions very soon. I am sure the call has already gone out to those who are getting the interview. They will also interview (10 interviews) in August some time (this lot won't be for active positions)

My experience has been great with them since they adjusted their points system towards the end of last year. Their focus now allows guys with limited command time but plenty of big jet/big company experience to interview.

Get in touch with them and they may be helpful in telling you where you're at and hat to do to improve.

Hey Hakaman2!
What exactly is "big company experience"?

AG is no longer involved in the recruitment process. There are several pilots who are, and NONE would welcome direct contact. Those days are apparently gone.
Good luck to all potential interviewees.
DC

What is AG????????????

Not what, but who. You're obviously new to this.:E

I know what you mean now...(nudge nudge wink wink)

Horserun: By "Big Company Experience" I mean guys who have time flying for BA/Cathay on Big Jets etc. but haven't got a whole heap of command time on said aircraft.

I dont think so Tim
 

If your trying to say you need Heavy jet time to get an interview then; BOLLOX Those hours would certainly make you VERY competitive but they're hardly the benchmark... its not like NZ is hiring DEFO's on the 777. :ugh:
There are PLENTY of LINK Co-pilots who have left for Big Bro in recent times so get those updates in.

Agreed.
I got an interview a while ago with 4000 hours, all light a/c some turbine, little command. Had a degree but most of the others didnt. None from "big companies" with loads of jet time. Looking for all rounders i think. . Great experience and all the panel/instructors were awesome. I didn't get in but if grovell is who i think it is then pucker up cause he is still there
good luck.
fourfive

Nice one fourfive!
Hope they let you have another shot at it!

Called them last week after having put in regular updates since Pontius was a copilot and never having heard a word back. Despite over 7000 TT and over 1200 heavy turboprop PIC was told that I would not be getting a call, due only to lack of a university degree.

They may get "down to my points level" when the 787 comes along but no guarantees.

Guess that degree in zoology is pretty relevant to sitting in the middle seat for 5 yrs or so...rant rant rant..

40 below

40 mate...check your PMS....buggered if I know how it works...have tried on many occasions... even tried to sweet-talk a few of the boys up the Northcoate last week(Macs gold was on me as well)....to no avail....

the only thing I,m picking is they have seen some of my pprune postings and have spit the dummy......Ive always been a good pakeha!!!:}

....well except for the stint in Mt eden,the two DUI,s.....:ooh:must be the moons on the footy trip....watched kumeu and cote(open grade) on sat...GO THE COTE!!!never threw any bottles....that has to qualify as good behaviour for sure......

Have sent several e-mails with no replys...if I get one it will probably go like this..

Dear Mr PB,
You are nothing but a pain in the arse!!! now go away you silly man.We know of your type,act nice in the interview,do well in the sim,answer all the questions,co-operate and graduate....and then after we hire you ....turn into the biggest pri#k weve ever known.Thanks but no thanks...and please have a nice day and say gidday to the boys in the cell next to you...

Sincerely....AirNZ mgt:{

...by the way..to the boys who flew me Wgtn- Nelson last week and let me ride "shotgun"...very professional,an excellent flight...great humour....and good luck in the negotiations...my offer stands,if your ever this way...shes on me..PB:ok:

So Air NZ is still waving that Uni Degree about huh. Damn!
Shame about those that knew what they wanted to do and did it as opposed to those who didnt and went to Uni to "find themselves" then take up flying. Took them all that time to figure out what we knew as infants. Oh well, it's their train set.
AG is well and truely out of that system.
That said, the guys on the recruiting team are all true professionals and I have a lot of respect for them. They also don't, I think, get to pick the initial selections either.

S2K, who said we would come back from the sandpit? It's nice here and Auntie Helen is not getting one cent of my hard earned $$$, plus how else am I supposed to help you get a jet job!

Ciao!

Not sure that this is going to make anyone feel any better but....

The current guy who looks after the interview system, C.K., has completely bastardised the old points system to fit his ideology. The points given for a degree were to help those who went to university and got a degree but ended up having fewer hours as a result than those that hadn't. ie it was to level the playing field so that you were not disadvantaged by going to uni. He has now spun this around so that you are advantaged by going to university, which is a little unfair to change the rules halfway through the game. They say that having international experience also contributes points but it seems not as many as a degree because I know of guys who are flying part 125 turbine command overseas who cannot get interviews with almost 10,000 hours yet people with half those hours and degrees are.
A word of advice, do not go moaning about all this to the person to whom you send your CV updates as I am pretty sure she is CKs wife!

At the end of the day we should be looking for good c***ts who can fly the plane well, get on with the team and not cause too much ****. Being one of these and having a degree are not mutually exclusive nor are they hand in hand.

So I say (not enough people listen to me though) we should have a healthy mix of the two, not just people from one camp.

As an aside, the people who are on the selection panel are not the ones who decide who gets an interview. They just test you and say yes or no.
Good luck to all the GCs out there.

BMDA,

Well said, my thoughts edsackery. The only hope that I can give people without degrees is that eventually they will run out of people with degrees and they will have to lower themselves to taking uneducated scum such as myself last time they got short.

Ah well, will just have to continue to content myself with being uneducated pond scum while some whose fathers may be finance minister somehow get a job in my stead...sigh...hope when they get "down to my level" they can find me through the murk we bottom dwellers live in...

40 below...go figure. Dare I say it, if you were interested you would get an interview with a certain HKG outfit for the RHS in an A330 or 744F.

4 years pi$$in away a student loan getting an Arts degree might have given you the edge at the Koru thou' :ugh::ugh::ugh:

I'm a f-ing GC I'd love an interview please

My little lady has a degree, she can hardly drive a f**king car, so I don't see why a person who studied art history should have any advantage.

Oh and 40 below.....your a GC:ok::ok::ok::ok:respect!

KMAG, busy trying (unsucessfully thus far) to convince she who must be obeyed that herself looking after 3 kids under 4 yrs by herself is a good idea, while I "swan off" into the sunset every week...still keen though

...as for ANZ, am still looking for the matched pair of red and green socks that you have to wear on alternate feet on even numbered days while poking tongue out of mouth in approved fashion while skipping backwards on one foot in order to meet todays criteria to be offered an interview...