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lemel 12th Nov 2006 08:43

Partnavia crash at Rottnest Island
 
Hello folks,

Was just wandering if anyone had any information about the crash that just happened at YRTI. The aircraft was a Partnavia VH-IYK belonging to the aeroplane company.

There were 6 pob and all walked away (thank god:D ), although you wouldnt think that if you saw the aeroplane. Speculation is that there was either an engine failure or something went wrong with the T/O or Lndg as there was a very strong crosswind.

Lemel:confused:

too often on ground 12th Nov 2006 10:32

Lot of wind.
 
Wind may only be a contributing factor. Looking at the wind speed for today on Rottnest, they did not excees the crosswind limits for the Partnavia.

JimmyReeves 12th Nov 2006 12:54

After seeing the wreckage its amazing how they survived. According to reports, some of the pax were thrown out upon impact and walked away.

Nil Flaps 12th Nov 2006 13:26

Where have you seen the images? People at our club were talking about this.... the pilot is known to us. I don't want to speculate what happened, just curious to see what they managed to walk away from. Thank heavens they could.

Ferrett 12th Nov 2006 14:15

Saw the pictures on the Channel 10 news tonight in Perth. The comments made about the passengers being thrown clear of the aircraft are not surprising when you see the footage. From the very brief images I saw the aircraft wings were basically torn off or at least very folded back.

Great that everyone got out OK. When you look at it though its amazing they did.

Not sure what the actual conditions were today, however landed there in a Bonanza the other week on runway 27 and it was a real handful. Lots of windsheer and howling cross wind.

Feel for the pilot though. Not something you want to go home and lament about for hours on end.

Led Zep 12th Nov 2006 14:22

Made the Nine News, decent amount of footage.
Crush a coke can, chop it in half and mangle it some more. Add some twisted wings to the side and you have what is left of poor IYK. :uhoh: :\

I cannot believe everyone walked away. :eek: :ok: Reports say four people were thrown clear while two were cut out of the wreckage.

YPJT 12th Nov 2006 14:34

So now with security fences and controlled access airside, anyone throw some light on how the media crews were able to be positioned near the Rescue helipad. Calls to JAH for ground staff were unanswered - oh that's right they're all busy working out how to close Jandakot and move it elsewhere.

Glad to see everyone ok and the only casulty is a busted airframe.:ok:

Zhaadum 12th Nov 2006 15:01

Heard the pilot of Rescue 65 complain (rightly so too) over the radio to the tower about the "in your face camera crew" :yuk:

Not much Jandakot Tower could do about it, they told the pilot to get out and tell the camera crew to go away.

So much for the airside security at YPJT, not to mention simple professional courtesy.

Glad everyone got out alright ...what a mess!

Z!

Sunfish 12th Nov 2006 18:05

....and from the ABC's website this morning the immortal words: "Police are yet to determine the cause of the crash.":ugh: Glad everyone is OK.

too often on ground 12th Nov 2006 20:11

If you can not go through, go over
 
So now with security fences and controlled access airside, anyone throw some light on how the media crews were able to be positioned near the Rescue helipad.




Just land your helicopter inside the fence and you are set.

Charlie Foxtrot India 13th Nov 2006 02:07

Well done to the pilot for getting a safe outcome for all inside. I understand all are out of hospital.

Back at YPJT I heard SMC asking if there were any JAH vehicles on frequency (unlikely on a Sunday) and the exchange as reported above, plus RFDS Med 1 taxiing for Rottnest. I saw what looked like a camera crew at the helipad outside the Jandakot Helicopters hangar, also two ambulances on the helipad but at a safe distance, and a Shell truck on the dirt road.

Didn't see any news choppers at the normal helicopter parking area, I guess they would have been at Rottnest. So I too wonder how the camera crew got in? And if they realised how stupid it was to get that close to a chopper that big? Ghouls.

Thank god we still have an airport and emergency services. For now, anyway.

Diatryma 13th Nov 2006 05:04

[quote=Charlie Foxtrot India;2960059]Well done to the pilot for getting a safe outcome for all inside.

CFI

You must be kidding. :confused: Have you read how mangled the aircraft was after this excursion? How is it to the credit of the pilot that some of the passengers were thrown clear during the crash and others had to be cut out of the mangled mess?

Besides which - it might have been the pilot's fault that the crash occurred? Ever think of that? :ugh:

Di

Pseudonymn 13th Nov 2006 07:13

SMH has a photo with their news story here.

FOD-Boss 13th Nov 2006 23:26

So....they snuck into the airside area behind an ambulance.... Classy!

Bula 14th Nov 2006 01:25

Its never the pilot fault :ok:

I mean... god dammit... those people better buy themselves a lottery ticket.... I mean GOD DAMN....

kiwiblue 14th Nov 2006 02:08

Hmmm...
 
For those of you who 'like' to assume that it is always the pilots' fault, a couple of brief extracts from the SMH story, previously linked above by Pseudonym...


He said the investigation into the cause of the crash was ongoing but mechanical problems were being looked at.
and:

"From what I understand [the pilot] did very well in advising and preparing the passengers for the impact and following the normal emergency procedures."
A bit too soon to be 'pointing the bone' methinks. Seems that congratulations to the pilot may yet be well in order, and that we are all lucky that he survived and will be able to tell us what he faced in the hope that we may extract some valuable lessons from his experience.

A little more circumspection and tact may be appropriate in some posts...

Diatryma 14th Nov 2006 02:37

kiwiblue,

Fair enough.

Just to be clear, I was not saying it was the pilot's fault.

I was just making the point that he's not a hero for telling everyone to hold on, and for the fact that he and his passengers were lucky enough to have survived this prang.

You guys................. geeze

Di :rolleyes:

Chimbu chuckles 14th Nov 2006 02:43

Fair enough kiwiblue....but as someone who has been flying (PN68s included) for a very long time I tend to ponder the possible ways a twin engined aircraft can end up in a lake.

It isn't a long list :ugh:

It's like seeing a SS Holden wrapped around a light pole at 0300 on a rainy saturday morning....you just tend to know it wasn't mechanical failure.:hmm:

jack red 14th Nov 2006 03:12

Chimbu c does the Partnavia have a fuel tank ON/OFF selector?

LJones 14th Nov 2006 03:16

Im not a pilot, yet, but i heard that the pilot was a young one... you oculd possibly link a young pilot to the hoon behaviour on the roads but this is an aircraft. I would like to see a twin engire do a dohnut.. :P
Why would a young pilot do something which can risk his life and career as a pilot, after forking out al that money, by doing something stupid and causing a crash. I think that he would have been extra careful in this procedures to make sure somethingl ike this neverhappens.. but hey...it does.
Like people say, you have the same amount of chance crashing a plane than it is winning the lottery, but people win the lottery all the time :P

Ciao


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