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notmyC150v2 25th Aug 2006 05:45

Charter Companies For Mining Ops
 
A Colleague who shares my office is currently producing a feasibility study for a mine in Central Qld.

One of the areas he has to look at is Charter Flight Operators who would be able to conduct fly in / fly out operations for up to 50 workers at a time. There is a total of approximately 160 troops with one third changing at any one time.

The operator will need to be able to conduct operations from Brisbane and Townsville to a location in central Queensland.

Anyone have any ideas as to who would be able to meet the requirements?

jack red 25th Aug 2006 05:48

Ring Mr Hugh Davin at National Jet Systems in W.A. If he can't help you I guarantee he'll know someone who can. :ok:

ComeByChance 25th Aug 2006 05:54

Try www.allianceairlines.com.au

Alliance has bases in Brisbane and Townsville and the majority of their work is flyin-flyout mine charters.

chimbu warrior 25th Aug 2006 05:54

Sounds like a job for Alliance. After all, it is in their backyard.

megle2 25th Aug 2006 09:05

Hardly think the average CQ mine airstrip will suit F100 ops.
QantasLink appear to be ramping up this area of ops.
Spare Dash's maybe.

ComeByChance 25th Aug 2006 09:22

megle2,

You will be surprised at what airports the F100 can operate into. It’s capable of operating into airports that the Q400 cannot operate into.

megle2 25th Aug 2006 10:55

OK educate me, how about these central Qld mine strips,

Blackwater, Kestrel, Oaky Creek, German Creek, Middlemount, Dysart,Clermont,
Moranbah, Collinsville, Coppabella, Duaringa, Springsure, Rolleston and Baralaba.

I think that just leaves Emerald which of course is OK.

ComeByChance 25th Aug 2006 11:56

You need to update your list of airports that aircraft above 5700 kg use for fly-in, fly-out ops in central QLD, as half the airports listed cannot be used by aircraft above 5700 kg and therefore not even the Dash 8 could operate into them.

The F100 currently operates mining charters into the following airports in QLD, Century Mine, Cloncurry, The Monument, Ballera. It has also operated charter flights into Gladstone.

Tiger 77 25th Aug 2006 12:23

When required (not often) I can quite happily land the F100 with a 400m landing roll. Max braking obviously so not passenger friendly but it can be done. Takeoff needs a bit more room though.

Cheers,
Tiger.

89 steps to heaven 25th Aug 2006 12:32

How about QRA in Cairns. Sort of work they have been looking at I think.

Monopole 26th Aug 2006 01:16


Hardly think the average CQ mine airstrip will suit F100 ops
notmyC150v2 colleague may decide that it is feasable to lengthen and seal any strip to suit a F100.

There are not too many spare 50 seat turboprops about and according to ComeByChance any strip will need to be upgraded anyway to suit a Dash-400.

RENURPP 26th Aug 2006 01:23

Strongly suggest NJS as mentioned above. They operate dash 8's (50 seats) and 64 seat 146's, and are particularly interested in getting more work in QLD. They already operate out of Brisbane, Cairns and have support close by in darwin and alice.

operate 20 some thing aircraft throughout Aus, not counting the surviellance australia contract or the PNG side of things.

megle2 26th Aug 2006 05:28

Sticking to the thread, its CQ mines we are talking about.
So it seems at present just Emerald suits unless we rebuild the selected airport.
So no surprises there.

How about we lengthen them and always roster the 400m F100 driver and we can all watch. Sounds like fun.

B772 26th Aug 2006 05:39


Originally Posted by ComeByChance
megle2,
You will be surprised at what airports the F100 can operate into. It’s capable of operating into airports that the Q400 cannot operate into.

I am surprised to hear this. Can you elaborate or give me an example airport.

podbreak 26th Aug 2006 06:30


Originally Posted by ComeByChance
megle2,

You will be surprised at what airports the F100 can operate into. It’s capable of operating into airports that the Q400 cannot operate into.

Thats very hard to believe, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt. More detail?

planemad2 26th Aug 2006 07:40

M-a-c-a-i-r do a lot of those charters. :ok:

Why is an Airline name censored?

R.Cruizo 26th Aug 2006 15:08

Who cares what a Fokker 100 will or won't do!! If the central QLD mines want a jet service, they will upgrade their strips( as in WA), if they don't spend the bucks, they're stuck with Dash -8 or Metro's. Simple!

RENURPP 26th Aug 2006 20:37


Sticking to the thread,
should read "continually changing the thread!

The Voice 27th Aug 2006 01:37

currently producing a feasibility study reckon all this talk about where is a bit futile. Being a study - perhaps it should cover the provision of a suitable strip in support of jet operations. Covers all scenarios then.

Reality - Alliance operates into various strips in support of FIFO ops. It does it very well.

Chocks Away 27th Aug 2006 10:06

Sad.
This has turned into a "my dicks bigger than your dick" thread...:ugh:

notmyC150v2:
QF, Skippers, NatJet, Alliance, Network, Smackair/Jetshaft, QRA, Rex, Airnorth, Transair all do such work, or have done in the past... with various frames (Ozjet possibly soon).
Give them a call and I'm sure they would all love to submit a quote.
Happy landings:ok:


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