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kookabat 29th May 2006 14:22

Hooooold on... WHAT instruction letter???


Never got one of those.... just the little bit of shiny plastic, a holder and a dodgy lanyard.:ugh:

aero979 1st Jun 2006 01:29

photo licences
 
can this be tied into the whole asic thing? are we meant to receive PHOTO licences now? I want one!

Eight Ball 1st Jun 2006 02:30

Really, if I get fined one of these days for forgetting my ASIC, I'll go to Current Affairs. Stuff 'em. This security is a joke.

ContactMeNow 1st Jun 2006 05:07

Don't worry guys, how is this for a joke...

Was at a regional/RPT airport not too long ago and saw 2 CASA inspectors walking around with their CASA ID tags on, but NO ASIC's.....

Surely their CASA ID cannot count as an ASIC card?

CMN :ok:

currawong 1st Jun 2006 09:39

Tax time is fast approaching.

Have yet to see a receipt.:mad:

ThoughtCrime 1st Jun 2006 14:09


Tax time is fast approaching.

Have yet to see a receipt.
Has anyone received a receipt? :bored:

TC

aero979 1st Jun 2006 23:15

receipt
 
i received a receipt for my licence fee - 130 bucks
have to pick up asic today or monday - but they can definately produce one

has anyone received a photo licence recently?

Arm out the window 2nd Jun 2006 03:40

Yep, got a receipt for mine - they were probably scared that I'd make another 50 phone calls and emails and letters of complaint if they didn't send it.

rcoight 2nd Jun 2006 05:21

Finally got mine today.

Not bad - only applied last October!

The strange thing is, my credit card doesn't appear to have been debited?!

I guess it's best to not ask any questions...

18-Wheeler 2nd Jun 2006 15:37

Hey I just got back into Aus today, got home, and there's my ASIC sitting here waiting for me!!!

One slight problem with that -
I DIDN'T WANT ONE!
I didn't fill out the paperwork for one, didn't approve one, didn't ask for one. I don't need or want one. I DID, however, fill out the paperwork for the new photolicence thingy.
So how the hell did I get an ASIC ????

rmcdonal 2nd Jun 2006 21:51


Was at a regional/RPT airport not too long ago and saw 2 CASA inspectors walking around with their CASA ID tags on, but NO ASIC's.....
Surely their CASA ID cannot count as an ASIC card?
Often it lives on the other side of the card holder, so they can just turn it around instead of having to wear two lanyards.
And there are rules regarding the Lanyard to. The little clip on them is to stop it from getting caught on something and either
a) Pulling your head into some moving engine part :eek:
b) Snagging your controls and thence causing an accident

Instead it just breaks off and falls to the ground....only to be picked up by the airport inspector who then charges you for not wearing it, and sends it of to CLARC (or whoever) for the $20 reward!

captaindejavu 2nd Jun 2006 23:32

fine them !!!!!
 
rmcdonal,

Firstly, I agree with everything you said. But you bring up a very good point regarding double-sided ID clips:

If their ASIC was on the reverse side, and therefore not properly displayed (i.e. clearly visible), then.... they should cop a $550 fine like the rest of us have been threatened with!!!!!! Call the nearest copper or APS officer and report them. That's their job. It's only fair, isn't it ?? One rule for everyone.

Aviation Transport Security Regulations....

3.03 Requirement to display ASICs in secure areas

(1) Subject to subregulations (4), (5) and (7), regulations 3.05, 3.06, 3.07, 3.08 and 3.09 and subregulations 3.18 (2) and 3.26
(2)
(a) a person in the airside security zone of a security controlled airport must properly display a valid red ASIC; and
(b) a person in a secure area (other than the airside security zone) of such an airport must properly display either a valid red ASIC or a valid grey ASIC.

Penalty: 5 penalty units.

1.04 What properly displaying means:

(1) For these Regulations, somebody is properly displaying an ASIC or VIC only if it is attached to his or her outer clothing:
(a) above waist height; and
(b) at the front or side of his or her body; and
(c) with the whole front of the ASIC or VIC clearly visible.

(2) He or she is not properly displaying the ASIC or VIC if anything adhering to it obscures a photograph or anything else on it.

rmcdonal 3rd Jun 2006 07:34

I can just see it now. The wind well flip the card over and then im up for a Fine :ugh: .

Pinky the pilot 3rd Jun 2006 08:04


Did anyone recieve a photo licence recently?
Aero979 Funny you you should say that!! Because further to 18 Wheeler's post re his application for a photo licence but recieving an ASIC;
I applied for both, and filled out both the forms supplied upon request. Eventually recieved a 'phone call from a very polite and helpful (but extremely overworked and harassed) Lady from the section issuing these things requesting that I fill out a different form which enables the security check on me as apparently I had filled out the incorrect form for the ASIC. It seems that the ASIC form I was supplied with had the security request page for the photo licence inserted instead of the ASIC one.
I was faxed the appropriate pages (which were almost identical to the pages I had originally completed:mad: ) and shortly thereafter recieved my ASIC.:ok: (Mrs Pinky asked why was'nt there a row of numbers below the photo:E )
So just when will the photo licence arrive???:confused:
What's the bet it never does!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Led Zep 3rd Jun 2006 08:30


Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot
So just when will the photo licence arrive???:confused:
What's the bet it never does!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I applied for one (photo license) back before the December cutoff date. The lady at CASA said I didn't need to apply for one since I already had an ASIC (thank Christ!) but I was most welcome to apply. Did so, didn't cost me anything, but it seems to have got lost in the mail. In the meantime I've had two new licenses issued to me - I bet mine never arrives either.

18-Wheeler 5th Jun 2006 06:58

Got a hold of them on the phone this morning, explained that I didn't want an ASIC and I'd asked for an AVID. The girl on the other end was as helpful as she could be, but said that I'd get called back from her boss some time in the next two working days to sort it out. Got a call a couple of hours ago, and the (new) woman on the phone said she'd send me an AVID no probs at all, and I could keep the ASIC.
Not tooooo painful ....

currawong 5th Jun 2006 10:41

The good news is the madness has spread to the AVMED section.

Getting a medical renewal is now a comparable debacle.

Same old stories. Could not get it back in time even with a two month extension.

The best part?

"Yes we can fax you out a copy, but that will cost you $35"

:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

aero979 7th Jun 2006 00:20

asic
 
i received my new asic today - but expires Jan 07!!!
it was a replacement card and I was meant to have new checks done, but they have gone off my old checks... and apparently have still charged me $145!!!!:ugh: :mad:

on the phone as we speak!!!

YYWG 7th Jun 2006 00:45

You can troll back through pprune history, but a number of organisations were offering ASIC, AUF, AOPA etc, with those you got a full 2 years. What did your cost on a pro-rated basis :D

VH-XXX 7th Jun 2006 01:02

The word on the street (a phone call to CASA actually) has yielded the fact that all application that are processed by May 31st (a week or more ago) are being returned to applicants and they will be required to re-apply. It's how they are going about "cleaning" out the system so that they can start again "fresh." I asked what happens to people who applied in say February to which the reply was "sorry, that's bad luckk, you will have to re-apply." !!!


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