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gaunty 3rd Apr 2006 12:18

Chaps;

As I understand it as part of the "consultative process" it was agreed that location specific ASICs would not be issued.

That is, an AUS Asic is what you will routinely get.

The ASIC and the airport are for the most part separate issues.

vh_ajm 3rd Apr 2006 14:06

Hope most of us are over this and other accosiated threads by now.

If you're in Adelaide and still waiting for your card or a phone call or post, it may be worth calling CASA and ask for it. Tell them it may be at QF for printing or pick up. They'll put you in touch with a QF rep who may just tell you its ready.

If its anything like mine, it will have been ready for over a week with QF thinking it is CASA's job to call and CASA thinking it is QFs job to call. Seems they should both sqawk 7600 at the moment cos neither are talking to eachother right now.

I made CASA and QF aware of this breakdown in communication but both seem disinterested.

By the way, when you do decide to go pick it up they (whoever) will tell you no more than QF domestic in the ADL terminal. What they don't tell you is that the place to go is through security and down to the cloudy glass doors opposite gate 24 and hit the intercom. If no joy there go to the QF service desk and ask for the number to call them direct. And no they cant call cos "we (service desk) get this all day". Thanks mate.

Hope this helps.

Oh and I asked CASA today what they're doing to credit people for ASICs that expire in less than 2 years (yes, I have lost 3 months as well). We'll see what they say.

ContactMeNow 3rd Apr 2006 14:18

Got the phone call saying mine is ready to be collected in Sydney, only problem is I dont live in Sydney any more (also called CASA to notify them of my address change 2 months ago).

was told to wait up to 4 weeks while QANTAS find it, send it back to CASA then CASA send it out to a CASA office near me and then they send it via registered post to my CURRENT address.....

Why cant QANTAS send it directly to me? I also had the option to get soemone to collect it from Sydney for me on my behalf, but was informed that Zthe "nominated person"needed to be "approved" by CASA (ie security cleared). I wasnt too sure if this was the case, so I called to inform them the person tho collect my ASIC form Sydney was also an ASIC holder and I was told to send QANTAS a fax and then CASA a fax informing them that i nominated a person to collect my ASIC (for them only to express post it up to me anyway)

Long story short it was all "too much of a hasel" for CASA and QANTAS so I will be waiting the 4 weeks to get mine in the mail. I fly out of a RPT airport so now I need written apporval from the airport manager to fly into and out of the airport...fun fun fun

Nothing but games....

CMN :ok:

ausdoc 3rd Apr 2006 21:59

Applied Nov 05, card debited Feb 06, used the automated system to find out the status and received a prompt reply to say that it was at QANTAS for printing. Two months later (yesterday), called CASA to find out the status of my card. It was not even on their list! The guy on the phone took my details and said he would speak to his supervisor and get back to me that day. Guess what - nothing.

ContactMeNow 4th Apr 2006 07:16

After being on CASAs back for the past day or so I was pleased to find that they have EXPRESSED POSTED me my ASIC...

After signing for it, I quickly open the parcel to see what the big commotion was all about....

I was shocked to find that they had sent me the WRONG card! :sad:

http://www.geocities.com/kookabat/ASIC.jpg


WELL DONE CASA!

CMN :ok:

currawong 4th Apr 2006 10:32

So thats who got my photo:}

flygirl79 4th Apr 2006 10:55

Ripped off and really annoyed
 
Sent my application off on January 06, queried CASA early March to check the progress, was given the story that its at Qantas for printing March 6th and they will contact me. Rang on the 31st March and CASA said that it was sent registered post over a week before.......three minutes later they changed their minds and said it was at adelaide domestic terminal..... (this is at 1630 in the arvo) No body called me to say it was delivered there and that I should come pick it up. Qantas office not open after 4 and dont bother coming in on the weekend because they are closed.
Communication is the key to good saftey in aviation and the two biggest companies in australian aviation cant even get their stories straight. Doesn't it **** you??
Went in Monday, nobody knew where the Qantas HR office is....after asking many, finally got to the glass doors, signed for it and it expires May 07. Been ripped off one month shy of a year.
Am really disappointed in CASA, AFP and ASIO. What a waste of money. Better start applying for the next one now I guess.
I seriously hope we get a discount!!

Altimeters 4th Apr 2006 23:07

Flygirl79,

I did the same thing and called the Qantas licencing line. I got an answering machine saying that they are closed on weekends. Anyhow I then called Qantas security (got their number from the answering machine) and the guy said that it was crap they are open on weekends but because of us they're not answering any phone calls. So I went in to the QCD building and I've walked in handed over my drivers licence and bingo I had my ASIC. (valid for one year!!!! :mad: :mad: )

LUCKY-1 4th Apr 2006 23:17

Aviaton ASIC
 
Applied 31st Dec last, Delivered to my door Tue April 4th by Australia Post.:)

ContactMeNow 5th Apr 2006 02:32

Currawong,

Could you please supply me your postal address. I will be sending it to you via REGISTERED POST and since im such a nice guy, I will even throw in a card holder plus laynard (all free of charge :E )

CMN :ok:

Lasiorhinus 5th Apr 2006 03:36

CASA now say (as of today, 5th April), that if your card is at any of the collection points (cardboard boxes with Chubb or Qantas), and you havent picked it up by April 9th, they'll just post it to you directly.....

Wheeler 5th Apr 2006 16:53

Lasiorhinus, That's the best bit of news I've heard from this sorry saga because there is no way I could get to Qantas before then to get the thing. No-one answers the phone number they told me to ring before fronting up anyway. Where did they announce this? (Or maybe its a secret!)

Anyone been asked about their card at an RPT airport yet? I've been to a couple without mine (because its at Qantas). I'm guessing if the cards cannot even be issued then the chances of them finding someone to look at them in the middle of Wup Wup are not too high at the moment. Hopefully, I'll get my ASIC before I get found out.

Sunfish 5th Apr 2006 21:10

I understand that the AFP will wait until the end of April or suchlike before "blitzing" various airports. Since they usually appear in a nice shiny four wheel drive, I expect that the word will get around very quickly.

One question - what about the Lame's busy working on aircraft in hangars? Its a bit impractical to wear an ASIC underneath an aircraft, or flitting from hangar to hangar. My guess is that ASIC's are only going to get worn on "official occasions" in some places.

L J R 5th Apr 2006 21:59

Has anyone got the CASA link to the 'check the status of your application online.' contained in the ASIC page to actually work?

Mr Phi me 6th Apr 2006 06:55

Still waiting
 
The link works but they don’t reply

I am sending them my new picture as I don’t look like my old one anymore

aero979 7th Apr 2006 01:13

casa
 
is there anything that does work with CASA? or do the people they have there know anything??

I received a message from a rep and have been trying to call back. a) phone lines to the area are too busy b) phone engaged c) phone rings out d) someone else answers and knows nothing of the person I am trying to get in touch with.

On another note - 4 DOTARS reps at our premises this week checking our airside door. Well 1 checked while the others stood outside checking out an arriving Virgin 737. Asked if they could supply no access etc signs for the door... and the answer... wait for it... I DONT KNOW!! haha:uhoh: meanwhile at least three people walking airside with no asic.

just another addition to this thread. I appreciate they are busy, but come on...

Biggles_in_Oz 13th Apr 2006 06:12

Finally got my piece of plastic :), but it expires in 14 months :ugh:

Being the perverse sod that I am, I read the back of the card, and it says

The holder of this card is required to display it on their person in an approved holder at all times when in ...
I wonder what Dotar/CASA consider an approved holder to be ?

Wheeler 13th Apr 2006 06:21

Just been up to the post office to pick mine up too... cannot believe the bloody thing expires in May 07!

Yeah Biggles, I think I know the 'approved holder' worn 'on their person' you are thinking of.


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