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Fly Jimmy 11th May 2005 03:53

Epaulettes......rank !
 
Hi All !!!

Just a quick question if some of you could help me. Im about to purchase epaulettes, but I dont know weather to get 1, 2, or 3 bars on my shoulder (doubt its 3, but am unsure). I have completed my CPL and MECIR and ATPL theory and have 300 hours in my first job.

Thanks to all responses in advance
Jim

jtr 11th May 2005 03:59

None. If you need them, your boss will either give them to you, (sure) or tell you how many pieces o gold you need. Hence your question will be answered.

Save your money for something useful.

Fly Jimmy 11th May 2005 04:10

Hi jtr,

My boss told me to purchase them and that he would reinverse me! I didnt even think about it really untill now, and dont want to really ring and sound like a dumb arse, so just thought id ask you guys!
Thanks!

EngineOut 11th May 2005 04:31

Generally speaking,

If you are flying a single - 2 bars, if you a flying a twin - 3 bars.

It will vary between companies though.

404 Titan 11th May 2005 04:48

Fly Jimmy

Ask your boss. It isn't a stupid question. You may though look stupid if you purchase the wrong ones.

DirectAnywhere 11th May 2005 04:48

You know you've made it in GA when your boss reinverses you.

I lost count of the number of time I was reinversed.

compressor stall 11th May 2005 05:09

Without the circumlocution, what exactly did your boss verse you in? :8

I was versed in a few things before I "made it" but I have been versed in (much better) things since.... ;)

DirectAnywhere 11th May 2005 05:49

It's not the verse, it's the inverse that matters!

Take that any way you like...;)

compressor stall 11th May 2005 05:54

which way hurts less? :ooh:

Engineer 11th May 2005 05:57

Do one of two things

1) Buy four bars and tell your boss you are practising for the day you become a captain :O

2) Buy one bar to save money that should really impress your boss :ok:

Super Cecil 11th May 2005 06:51

.........Sneering Rites
 
I'd recomend the ones they use on the Ferry's, they've got some little squiggly lines on them that look far more impressive than even 6 bars. If you ask me you been playing with your bars too much. :8
When you go in the shop to buy your bars, ask about a pilot watch as well. Expect to pay at least $3000 for a good one, you'll have sneering rites round the Aeroclub for years with Ferry bar epaulettes and a pilot watch. :ooh:

compressor stall 11th May 2005 07:00

After a gondola ride through the canals of Venice three weeks ago, mrs stall and I were at a resturant and all the waiters were wearing white shirts with well worn three bar epaulettes, identical to the ones I used to wear.

Felt like a flashback to Kununnurra! :}

tinpis 11th May 2005 07:05

Dont forget the gloves.


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Milt 11th May 2005 07:10

Isn't a "reinverse" an inverted double immelman followed by a roll off the top and then a buzz circuit with no part of final being on a constant heading.

tinpis 11th May 2005 07:14

Hmmm..thought that was an "Ozzle Twizzle" Milt?

jtr 11th May 2005 08:08

Welcome to GA
 
Where 1 in 10 are there to help you, and the other 9 are there to sh!t on you.

Continental-520 11th May 2005 09:29

2
 
Fly Jimmy,

Get two. You won't look stupid.

I really doubt anybody will care too much anyhow, unless of course you rock up with four.

Congrats on your entry to the industry...may you fly lots and above all enjoy yourself.

520.

emeritus 11th May 2005 09:43

I agree with ENGINE OUT... 2 bars for s/e, 3 for m/e.

That way leaves 1 bar for anyone who may be junior!!!

How things have changed..way back in 50-60's one would have been laughed off the aerodrome if you fronted up wearing Epaulettes!

All troops joining Airlines ( Ansett-ANA anyway)in the early days had to make do with HALF a bar for the first six months.
Certainly made you realise where you fitted into the system.

After 2 years and providing you had your ATPL Subjects you were upgraded to senior F/O and sported 2 bars. This meant you still had to look up to Captains but were able to look down on junior F/O's!!! :cool: :cool:

The Messiah 11th May 2005 09:46

It's 1 bar for every $100k you earn.

Transition Layer 11th May 2005 11:31

I had to have a second look at the title of this thread.

At first I thought it was "Epaulettes.....wank!"

:D
TL

ace4bars 11th May 2005 11:57

The 4 bars have always worked well for me. Best purchase I made in aviation


Ace

Capt Fathom 11th May 2005 12:11


It's 1 bar for every $100k you earn
Yes!! I'm rich. GA is good!

Mere Mortal 11th May 2005 12:47

Listen to Ace4bars, he knows how to stir everyone into sledging frenzy.

How's the multi turbine jobhunting going?

Your ex-girlfriend says "hi".
MM

gaunty 11th May 2005 14:15

Nah tinny the "Ozzle Twizzle" has a derry turn from base to finals.:uhoh:

swh 11th May 2005 15:11

Stallie,

"mrs stall".....when did this happen ... please tell :ugh:

:ok:

tinpis 11th May 2005 22:02

hmmmm.....at my age if I get any sorta bar Im grateful.

compressor stall 11th May 2005 22:03

well she ain't officially mrs yet, but we're picking up the tetrahedral carbon atom arrangement next week.... :8

SR20flyDoc 11th May 2005 22:29


I agree with ENGINE OUT... 2 bars for s/e, 3 for m/e.
Or 1 bar for every 100K

Well, I own the plane, and can give you the name of a shop which sells 5 bar stuff;

http://www.lhshop.nl/?shopid=LM427e445f3d2a65dad20cd33013&parent_id=274


Have fun :ok:

S.

tinpis 11th May 2005 23:23

You be sooooorrry stallie...............:sad:

rmcdonal 12th May 2005 03:01

Don't buy, steal. What kind of a poor GA pilot are you??:8
Or even better paint them on. Then you can always add a few bars later.:E

Centaurus 12th May 2005 14:01

GB's pilots shop at Essendon used to flog T-Shirts with five gold bars etched on, plus gold wings and a pair of sunnies sticking out of a pocket -all etched on. I gave one of these T-Shirts to the President of Pleasant Island in the Pacific and he was delighted -saying he had always wanted to outrank the 4 bar pilots of his 737's. A few locals wore them with pride on a couple of other Pacific islands. The T-Shirts, that is.

Squawk7700 12th May 2005 14:06

We call them w*anker bars at my school. The more you have, the more of a w*anker you are. Gold wings are my pet hate. What do they mean?????

EngineOut 12th May 2005 15:01

squawk 7700,

that is because you are at a school!!!;)

swh 12th May 2005 15:47

Congratulations Stallie,

:ok:

Kornholeo 12th May 2005 22:17

Squawk you call them w@nker bars but you secretly wish your school made them an essential item so you could wear them too. Admit it...

In WA, charter pilots usually wear 3 bars. If you're some kind of two-crew capt then wear 4. If you're an instructor at some dero club, wear 2 unless you're a CFI or CGI, then wear 3. The CP wears 4 at the flashier dero clubs. I think that's how it works.

Wings? Someone said "do they even mean anything???" or something equally stupid.

Of course they mean something. If your company has wings then wear them with pride and a sense that you are better than normal people, they mean "you can fly" and are licenced to do so. Not really, but that's what people will think and if they try to cr@p on your sense of accomplishment then fcuk 'em.

If your boss ain't got wings then who cares, don't go buying some chook-wings from the aero-shop as they won't mean much at all, I suppose.

But don't let tools like Squawk make you feel like a "w@nker" just because you do what most pro-pilot employers in Aust expect you to do - wear fruit on your suit.

Just please don't wear it to the pub/deli/coles supermarket/etc...

Transition Layer 13th May 2005 00:13

Kornholeo


If your company has wings then wear them with pride and a sense that you are better than normal people, they mean "you can fly" and are licenced to do so.
I really hope this is a wind-up otherwise you have some serious issues son.

TL

Captain Sand Dune 13th May 2005 04:17

The only wings worth wearing are silver ones anyway.....................:} :}
(pulls on tin hat and ducks for cover!!)

drshmoo 13th May 2005 06:49

Transition Layer
At your Airline:yuk: :8 :}
Does your boss make your wear your ****** bars whilst scrubbing planes for hours on end. You do have an affinity towards them. I remember when you first met "Clear Props" mum and when your eyes met for first time, the stars in the kimberley came into alignment and the rainbow serpent blessed you both with with a lovely young lad who to this day runs around oombie with that distinctive "shire boy gold locks" and he wears 4 bar epaulettes just like his daddy did flying the old c206 on the oombie wyndam run.

Gwan B Yirheid 13th May 2005 08:50

What about brown wings.... do they count?? :ooh: :ooh:

7gcbc 13th May 2005 10:06

this thread deserves 5 stars, however..........


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