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The Voice 11th Nov 2004 21:33

If it is that HA is involved in this travel and freight mob, who else is?

If NAC is in the sad state of disrepair that it is said to be, how could a new op. be financed without assistance?

The 'terminal' at BTI aint flash, but it does accomodate the hoardes, for most of which, a trip the airport is a gala social event!

LUVJET 12th Nov 2004 08:14

Voice,

a guy from down south apparantly runs(owns) this joint tiwi.(He hung out with a german bloke at morrabbin and ran a joke of an operation that lasted two tenths of *%#@ all time.)

It seems people in this industry are definite suckers for punishment.

my sources are yet to confirm that HA is involved officially (or on the books as they say). but the connection certainly seems apparant.

but you know what ???? it does not matter. those who are involved in this industry and play elusive games.......maaaan its a matter of time.

the next two months will be judgement time for all those who believe they are above the law......god.......their family.......and most of all themselves...... i can sleep at night like a baby........can people who do the incorrect thing do the same.....dont think so.

darwin aviation scene will be different story in the next sixty days.


only the professional strong will remain and the rest......well they may have to sell donuts for a living........cool, the farthest away from aviation the better.......

it a great time for aviation in the NT......for once in a long time it looks like it may be done right.........with out those whom concentrate on one flight at a time and worry about 2morrow........2morrow.

TO A GREAT AVAITION FUTURE IN THE NT.......WITH OUT A PAIN IN THE ASS, UN ETHICAL, DO AS LIKE OPERATOR....GONE ......TIME HAS COME FOR ALL EGOS TO BOW OUT GRACEFULLY...AND FOR PROFESSIONAL AVAITION TO TAKE OVER.

Bill Smith 12th Nov 2004 08:45

LJ

Not one to pick on spelling but couldn't let this one go!

If your going to get on your soapbox about being a professional aviator, then please learn how to spell "aviation" x2


TO A GREAT AVAITION FUTURE IN THE NT.......WITH OUT A PAIN IN THE ASS, UN ETHICAL, DO AS LIKE OPERATOR....GONE ......TIME HAS COME FOR ALL EGOS TO BOW OUT GRACEFULLY...AND FOR PROFESSIONAL AVAITION TO TAKE OVER.

G.A. Boy 12th Nov 2004 10:15

Well how can he not be involved! Tiwi Island Travel and Freight use HA's AOC, pilots and aircraft! And hes not involved, yeah right! :\

The Voice 12th Nov 2004 22:52


darwin aviation scene will be different story in the next sixty days
oh? really? do tell ..


my sources are yet to confirm that HA is involved officially (or on the books as they say). but the connection certainly seems apparant
I would suggest then as 'your sources' are 'yet to confirm' that caution may be the best order of your day .. and for the rest of us interested but uneducated few .. could you elaborate on the apparent connection?

OpsNormal 13th Nov 2004 00:27

Hello again The Voice.

I believe that the next sixty days being referred to will be the rising to prominence on the airfield (at least into public view) of another operator from down south (a fairly 'straight to the point' kind of name) ;) ... hoping to take a rather large slice of whatever action might arise from the possible demise of one company that many are touting is about to happen.

Others wait in the wings with definite interest.

What some operators are unaware of is a sleeping giant (not from the outside, especially in DN), with very deep pockets is stirring quietly... :ooh:

Oh Bill, by the way.... if you are going to slip the boot into LUVJET about his/her fingers not following the directions of his/her brain, at least have the courtesy of ensuring that your own post is correctly punctuated.

A full-stop every now and again in your own post might well be in order there Bill.

Glass houses etc.... ;)

My own spelling and syntax is far from perfect, but I don't have a need to impress upon others a desire to prove myself a being of higher intellect than they are, just because I can.

You have a fantastic day now, y'hear!!?!:ok:

The Voice 13th Nov 2004 00:41

Hiya Ops ..


What some operators are unaware of is a sleeping giant (not from the outside, especially in DN), with very deep pockets is stirring quietly
ooha .. now THAT'S interesting news!



another operator from down south
I read something only the other day advertising the impending arrival of DirectAir, expanding north from ASP? .. I don't mind spelling it out .. (I believe it was in the NT news on wed.)

Woomera 13th Nov 2004 00:43

The title of this thread is: "NAC and the Award - Part 3"

I am not comfortable with the "thread drift" and certain statements currently being made regarding both individuals and companies.

Lets stick to the subject, shall we?

Woomera

maxgrad 13th Nov 2004 03:29

ok ok
NAC should get an award for running this long.
except that nac will probably be running away shortly.
Amazing isn't it. If a company treats it's staff well and works within the regs the staff work hard, the company moves forward and stays around.
doe sorry just day dreaming:E :E

Bill Smith 13th Nov 2004 05:37

I by no way implied I was of a higher intellect!
I just think that if we are in the Aviation Industry, it's a word that we should be able to spell.

Have a nice day:D

Guest 13th Nov 2004 10:23

Heard a rumour today that NAC are not only loosing planes because they don’t pay the lease but pilots are leaving because they are not getting any hours.

Direct are looking to give NAC some real competition for customers too.

Howard Hughes 13th Nov 2004 21:50

You can see the future right here.

Cheers, HH.

:ok:

PS: Impressive stable of aircraft.;)

dasjab 14th Nov 2004 00:18

I would not get too excited, I hear that Direct Air Charter are also looking to x-hire a chieftain to base in Darwin. Maybe they dont have an abundance of their own aircraft to send to Darwin???

Perception is half the battle.

OpsNormal 14th Nov 2004 02:21

Das, funny you should mention that, the last one went awry in the process......
a "stolen" PA-31, VH-RDA

It was a nice break from the usual routine to ferry that PA-31 back to YSBK a couple of weeks ago after the bank took ownership of the machine that caused all the fuss in that story.

Owners of aircraft need to be paid for the use of the equipment or the unfortunate follow-on of that is the bank becomes the new owner of the aircraft. It is as simple as that.

Operators of aircraft need to pay maint. organisations for work carried out or the engineer concerned loses that income, or if lucky (or the bill is big enough) becomes the owner of yet another airframe. In Darwin one of the biggest aircraft fleet owners is one of the local engineers!

Direct are pushing into Darwin, but aren't the ones to watch in the near future..... Perception is indeed a double edged sword that some use to appear a larger threat than what they really are, and others use to hide behind so as not to tip their hand until the last moment. My lips are sealed. :ooh:

Bill, I was probably being a little too harsh, my apologies. The general standard of literacy in this day and age would appear to be somewhat lacking in general society as a whole. The internet (and these types of BB's) would seem to be one of the larger culprits.

OpsN. ;)

gary gearbox 14th Nov 2004 22:31

Impressive stable of aircraft, yes, but I believe they only operate the ones with propellers, perception indeed! (even HA operated the jet he advertised) I would not get to worried about the perceived threat in DN or AS just yet. There is alot of talk but not alot of action.

GG

George.Handel 18th Nov 2004 06:55


Maybe they dont have an abundance of their own aircraft to send to Darwin???
Don't understand that, as they own a couple online with NAC, thought they'd just take them off the competition... they're already in Darwin.

BUT... I heard today that HA was seen out negotiating with another big, recently unemployed, name in the DN aviation seen.:ooh:

dasjab 18th Nov 2004 07:29

George.Handel

I think you might be getting Direct Air Charter (Who are looking at operating in Darwin) mixed up with Direct Air Services easily done. Direct Air Services is a Newcastle based Charter Airline with about 7 or 8 cheiftains and they have a few up in Darwin with NAC they operate all their flights two crew not a bad operation. www.directairservices.com.au

Cheers :ok:

dasjab 19th Nov 2004 19:56

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I think you misunderstood my last post. I was just pointing out that the chieftains currently operated by NAC are owned by a Newcastle company by the name of Direct Air Services. I believe the company based in Melbourne in called Direct Air Charter and that the Newcastle based Direct Air Services run a very tight operation. I am sure that Direct Air Charter are a fine operation as well.

:O


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