Chat Frequencies
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Chat Frequencies
To the Bankrunning guys/gals at Bankstown, looks like your cover has been blown!
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I realise I'm exposing this to an even wider audience, but it appears that some of the non-pilots on that message board don't understand the concept of secret chat freqs! I know that places i've worked in the past it's been a guarded secret and wouldn't have wanted the conversations (usually consisting of the previous nights activities
) listened to by Joe Bloggs with a handheld!
Just as an aside, remember one early morning having a chat on what we thought was a chat frequency up in the far north of WA and being dropped in on by "Striker 11" (an RAAF F-111 i believe) who I assume was scanning frequencies with his high tech equipment on board. Was quite amusing actually...
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I realise I'm exposing this to an even wider audience, but it appears that some of the non-pilots on that message board don't understand the concept of secret chat freqs! I know that places i've worked in the past it's been a guarded secret and wouldn't have wanted the conversations (usually consisting of the previous nights activities
) listened to by Joe Bloggs with a handheld!Just as an aside, remember one early morning having a chat on what we thought was a chat frequency up in the far north of WA and being dropped in on by "Striker 11" (an RAAF F-111 i believe) who I assume was scanning frequencies with his high tech equipment on board. Was quite amusing actually...
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Cheers Desert Flower, that would explain it.
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You guys really should peruse the AIP occasionally...........123.45 is NOT a chat frequency, but an international inter-pilot frequency which is solely for the passing of OPERATIONAL information between flights in oceanic airspace. There is nothing worse than some yanker giving a blow-by-blow description of his previous nights antics on an operational frequency. It's like those tossers who insist on chatting on 121.5, potentially drowning out the ELT signal of some poor ****** deep in the bush (remember...it could be you or someone you care about one day).
If you want a chat, use the phone.
If you want a chat, use the phone.
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The NZ AIP's state that 123.45 in an international chat frequency (using those words). I would have thought international meant anywhere in the world.
Ours doesnt limit this to oceanic ops however I can understand this may be the intention of its designed use, although casual chat about the previous nights conquests on 123.45 while flying around domestically shouldnt upset anyone. The VHF isint going to transmitt too greater distance such that its going to interfere with someones conversation on the same freq. half way across the Tasman.
Agree on the need to stay off 121.5 tho and in all the time Ive used 123.45 Ive never heard another voice apart from those of our own convoy anyway.
Ours doesnt limit this to oceanic ops however I can understand this may be the intention of its designed use, although casual chat about the previous nights conquests on 123.45 while flying around domestically shouldnt upset anyone. The VHF isint going to transmitt too greater distance such that its going to interfere with someones conversation on the same freq. half way across the Tasman.
Agree on the need to stay off 121.5 tho and in all the time Ive used 123.45 Ive never heard another voice apart from those of our own convoy anyway.
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IMHO, using numbers (123.45) to have a chat with mates is pretty poor form really, but unfortunately it does happen from time to time. Not only is it an "operational frequency" but also because as soon as you say "Go Numbers", every sod within earshot on Centre frequency will do likewise!!!
And chimbu warrior, in Australia it is not limited to oceanic ops, it is also designated for use in remote areas (practically the whole bloody country) as shown on ERCs.
Cheers,
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And chimbu warrior, in Australia it is not limited to oceanic ops, it is also designated for use in remote areas (practically the whole bloody country) as shown on ERCs.
Cheers,
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and it aint legal
Go read the AIPs. They will direct you to the radio class licence covering aircraft ops. In there various frequencies are listed for 'chat'.
if you are not on one of those and operating within its 'purpose' you are operating outside of that licence (and the AIPs) and are thus breaking the law.
Penalty, dunno, ask CASA
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if you are not on one of those and operating within its 'purpose' you are operating outside of that licence (and the AIPs) and are thus breaking the law.
Penalty, dunno, ask CASA
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depends where you are...
FYI: Its not legal in the UK... from our current NOTAM series:
No other "chat" frequency is provided here, and "numbers" is strictly for oceanic use, according to CAA here. Its a major pain not to have it, and there are efforts to lobby for it AFAIK, but bearing this in mind it seems you might like to consider discouraging abuse of this privelege where you have it lest you lose it!?
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FREQ 123.45MHZ NOT TO BE USED AS AN AIR TO AIR COMM CHANNEL WITHIN RANGE OF ANY VHF GROUND STATION IN UK FIRS FROM:17 JAN 2003 15:17 TO:PERM B0148/03
Andy
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