Aerocommander shrike endorsement
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Aerocommander shrike endorsement
G'day all,
I am after a Shrike endo and I am having a hard time finding a company that does them. Is anyone out there that can help me?
Thanks
I am after a Shrike endo and I am having a hard time finding a company that does them. Is anyone out there that can help me?
Thanks
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g'day sedgie,
Tasair down in tassie do them out of hobart. Only problem is getting there. At a guess around $5-600 an hour. Good company to do it with, and a very nice plane to fly. The hardest thing is taxiing them around!
see ya
Tasair down in tassie do them out of hobart. Only problem is getting there. At a guess around $5-600 an hour. Good company to do it with, and a very nice plane to fly. The hardest thing is taxiing them around!
see ya
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They have hydraulic steering activated through the rudder pedals.
First "stop"works the steering, second works the brakes. It is very easy to get the brakes when you want the steering.
I read a comment from an instructor on a US website devoted to Commanders that if the student was having problems with the steering, he got them to remove their shoes and just flex their toes to steer.
The problems I had when I did my endorsement ceased when I stopped wearing leather-soled shoes and wore shoes that were more flexible.
Great aircraft to fly. Very stable on instruments. Don't hold the nose up too long on landing as it will come done with a bit of bang.
Enjoy.
They have hydraulic steering activated through the rudder pedals.
First "stop"works the steering, second works the brakes. It is very easy to get the brakes when you want the steering.
I read a comment from an instructor on a US website devoted to Commanders that if the student was having problems with the steering, he got them to remove their shoes and just flex their toes to steer.
The problems I had when I did my endorsement ceased when I stopped wearing leather-soled shoes and wore shoes that were more flexible.
Great aircraft to fly. Very stable on instruments. Don't hold the nose up too long on landing as it will come done with a bit of bang.
Enjoy.
Re Taxiing the Shrike:
I have found that having the heels on the bottom of the rudder pedals gives one a "brace" when using the top of the pedals for steering. Having the heels on the bottom also tends to help the pilot lock hiis/her knees which prevents the rudder from moving - and allows precise & gentle movement of the toes for accurate steering. Movement of the rudder any time you want to use the nosewheel steering is not at all helpfull. However, always be sure you can apply brake at full rudder deflection.
I have recommended this technique to those that I have trained on the type and they have found immediate benefits. I have not found the type of shoe to be limiting - having the brace seems to be all that is required.
The same technique of locking up the rudder with your legs/knees, also works well with larger twin engine, tail wheel types that have castoring tail wheels. One type I recall (found only in museums now) had internal control locks that locked the rudder at the first stage lock. Without the locks in, it was very dificult to taxi in any sort of cross wind, as the rudder pedals could easily be at full deflection which tended to limit the amount of pressure one could apply to the brakes. Another older type, without locks, can leave the pilot with sore leg muscles after prolonged taxiing in strong winds.
Good Luck with the Shrike - they fly nicely and do everything well that you expect an aeroplane to do.
I have found that having the heels on the bottom of the rudder pedals gives one a "brace" when using the top of the pedals for steering. Having the heels on the bottom also tends to help the pilot lock hiis/her knees which prevents the rudder from moving - and allows precise & gentle movement of the toes for accurate steering. Movement of the rudder any time you want to use the nosewheel steering is not at all helpfull. However, always be sure you can apply brake at full rudder deflection.
I have recommended this technique to those that I have trained on the type and they have found immediate benefits. I have not found the type of shoe to be limiting - having the brace seems to be all that is required.
The same technique of locking up the rudder with your legs/knees, also works well with larger twin engine, tail wheel types that have castoring tail wheels. One type I recall (found only in museums now) had internal control locks that locked the rudder at the first stage lock. Without the locks in, it was very dificult to taxi in any sort of cross wind, as the rudder pedals could easily be at full deflection which tended to limit the amount of pressure one could apply to the brakes. Another older type, without locks, can leave the pilot with sore leg muscles after prolonged taxiing in strong winds.
Good Luck with the Shrike - they fly nicely and do everything well that you expect an aeroplane to do.
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Gday all,
Blackburn's advice is all good, also try to getting the endorsing pilot to position his feet a bee's weeny shy of the rudder pedals so that when you go for a boot full of rudder to turn the corner the rudder bar doesn't swing forcing you into a GENTLE application of the TOES on the top of the pedal.
Great system once you get the hang of it.
Just remember what the rudder is for during TKOF and LDG and dont make the error of trying to "nosewheel steer" it when you should be "ruddering" it.
Best "work" piston I ever flew
Cheers,
I'm gone!
Blackburn's advice is all good, also try to getting the endorsing pilot to position his feet a bee's weeny shy of the rudder pedals so that when you go for a boot full of rudder to turn the corner the rudder bar doesn't swing forcing you into a GENTLE application of the TOES on the top of the pedal.
Great system once you get the hang of it.
Just remember what the rudder is for during TKOF and LDG and dont make the error of trying to "nosewheel steer" it when you should be "ruddering" it.
Best "work" piston I ever flew
Cheers,
I'm gone!
