Dash 8 Simulator--curious to know
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Dash 8 Simulator--curious to know
My son has the opportunity to spend 2 hours in a D-8 simulator.
He has the minimal PPL hours in 150 and 172 .s,and has the odd home computer simulators.
He will be choosing Cairns as the airport as he finished off his ppl there.
He will be put in there and shown nothing.
Im curious to know how he will go.
He never continued to CPL as he blew his bread on a car and jet ski,but as planes are his passion he is now an apprentice AME.
So ,whats everyones answer on his chances of succeeding
He has the minimal PPL hours in 150 and 172 .s,and has the odd home computer simulators.
He will be choosing Cairns as the airport as he finished off his ppl there.
He will be put in there and shown nothing.
Im curious to know how he will go.
He never continued to CPL as he blew his bread on a car and jet ski,but as planes are his passion he is now an apprentice AME.
So ,whats everyones answer on his chances of succeeding
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hahhaha.. He will not get off the ground. He needs to find out how to unlock the controls and set the aircraft so take off warning horns do not scream for the whole two hours. If he does manage to get airborne he will lose control of it very early on. ITs a little unstable when given inputs of any sort.
Try and persuade the person setting him up to give a hand with it.
Try and persuade the person setting him up to give a hand with it.
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Fromwayback is quite right although his first paragraph is worth ignoring.
Yes, he'll need tuition of some sort otherwise it might well be a pointless exercise; however its a great opportunity to get the feel of something afew steps up from a Cessna.
Good luck
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Yes, he'll need tuition of some sort otherwise it might well be a pointless exercise; however its a great opportunity to get the feel of something afew steps up from a Cessna.
Good luck
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Shaker One
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If the thing is running and positioned on the runway he should have a reasonable chance of getting it airborne.
If he's shown nothing, then I assume he'll have to start it, configure it and taxi it.
It is a 2 crew machine so unless he's going to have some help, he won't be able to reach every thing to fly it properly. By that I mean, get gen's online, bleeds on etc depending on which seat he's in.
If he's got 2 hours in it and he's given some assistance then he'll have a ball.
If he's shown nothing, then I assume he'll have to start it, configure it and taxi it.
It is a 2 crew machine so unless he's going to have some help, he won't be able to reach every thing to fly it properly. By that I mean, get gen's online, bleeds on etc depending on which seat he's in.
If he's got 2 hours in it and he's given some assistance then he'll have a ball.
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Pith Poor fromwayback you need to encourage not discourage. Im sure you started somewhere and altho the Dash 8 sim is perhaps not as forgiving as some of the jet sim's your attitude leaves a lot to be desired. Go and have a Bex and a lie down and think about your responsibility to the next generation of pilots who have to put up with wallys like you in their cockpits!
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Well speaking with the voice of experience.
Having experienced only two different sims, I'd take the DH8 over the 146 any day! That is to say that I found the DH8 better replicated the aircraft than the 146.
As to the original question, I can't imagine that a novice would be put in the machine and let go, as without some knowledge there'd be no progress.
Having experienced only two different sims, I'd take the DH8 over the 146 any day! That is to say that I found the DH8 better replicated the aircraft than the 146.
As to the original question, I can't imagine that a novice would be put in the machine and let go, as without some knowledge there'd be no progress.
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I was lucky enough, by a sheer fluke of opportunity to have a run on the Dash 8 sim. At that point, Id only your basic cessna single time, and 40 hours or so twin total.
I found it a most stable, easy to understnad and fly platform, and so long as someone doesnt throw 60 knot gusts with various other weather horrors on the old checkerboard approach into Hong Kong, the lad will have a ball as well with a good intructor.
There in lies my question... why would a company let an unknown into a very expensive machine. There in most cases to offer effective operation, is a console operator, usually a check and training captain.
Many of the engineers learnt alot from playing in the sim, from start up including start up emergencies to servicing run ups and just going for a bit of a fly, but all had the benefit of an engineer or pilot to show them the basic ropes.
I found it a most stable, easy to understnad and fly platform, and so long as someone doesnt throw 60 knot gusts with various other weather horrors on the old checkerboard approach into Hong Kong, the lad will have a ball as well with a good intructor.
There in lies my question... why would a company let an unknown into a very expensive machine. There in most cases to offer effective operation, is a console operator, usually a check and training captain.
Many of the engineers learnt alot from playing in the sim, from start up including start up emergencies to servicing run ups and just going for a bit of a fly, but all had the benefit of an engineer or pilot to show them the basic ropes.
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it happened.He and a mate(never flown)spent 2 1/2 hours in the sim. and thoroughly enjoyed it.
To recap ,hes got a PPL and spent years with playing on his computer with flight sims.The modern day youth seem to understand all these contaptions and are wizards in no time.
The airport was set up for them and the guy left.The boy did sus out the contol lock and away he went.First takeoff he had to correct the settings when a few gauges started to rise (power torque he said) and did find the controls a bit touchy.In his time he did the lot ,taxing ,take off landing and circuits etc ,and in the 7 times he didnt put a foot wrong.
His mate(only computer sims) who is a joy stick jockey only succeeded in landing as well but my son was doing the other things for him.
Not content with that next night had a go in old 747-200.Had a few bounces down the runway ending up over shooting and into the grass ,but pulled off a perfect landing in a rain storm with 800 metres visability on IRS.
When you work in a place,even though probably frowned upon,if a sim in not booked,then sometimes the opportunity rises.Better still it could be in working hours instead of after shift.
Maybe he should have stuck to flying instead of wanting to be a LAME,then again,maybe not.Doesnt matter as he loves it and thats the most important thing i suppose.Will ask him again in 10 years lol.
To recap ,hes got a PPL and spent years with playing on his computer with flight sims.The modern day youth seem to understand all these contaptions and are wizards in no time.
The airport was set up for them and the guy left.The boy did sus out the contol lock and away he went.First takeoff he had to correct the settings when a few gauges started to rise (power torque he said) and did find the controls a bit touchy.In his time he did the lot ,taxing ,take off landing and circuits etc ,and in the 7 times he didnt put a foot wrong.
His mate(only computer sims) who is a joy stick jockey only succeeded in landing as well but my son was doing the other things for him.
Not content with that next night had a go in old 747-200.Had a few bounces down the runway ending up over shooting and into the grass ,but pulled off a perfect landing in a rain storm with 800 metres visability on IRS.
When you work in a place,even though probably frowned upon,if a sim in not booked,then sometimes the opportunity rises.Better still it could be in working hours instead of after shift.
Maybe he should have stuck to flying instead of wanting to be a LAME,then again,maybe not.Doesnt matter as he loves it and thats the most important thing i suppose.Will ask him again in 10 years lol.
