QF638 go-around and diversion at YBBN
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Qantas Opens Tamworth Base
ABC Radio news this morning, reports that QANTAS, having changed their themesong from “I Still Call Australia Home” to ”Stand By Your Man” have last night commenced 737 passenger services to Tamworth.
Accomodation was provided on board for the pax in the all inclusive deal. The package contained catering by the Mobil self serve near the bridge…..Tasty pies and sausage rolls fresh from the microwave.
Apparently the crew were an hour late out of Melb for Brisbane and would have missed the runway opening hours (due runway works & holding..I guess)
BN Notam
AD C0266/03 REVIEW C0254/03
RWY 01/19 NOT AVBL DUE WIP OVERLAY/GROOVING. REFER AIP SUP H47/02 (STAGE 5) AVBL AVFAX CODE 81547 OR INTERNET FROM 04 211400 TO 06 161900 DAILY 1400/1900 SUNDAY TO FRIDAY
Would have thouight they could have used 14/32 at 1700m????
Accomodation was provided on board for the pax in the all inclusive deal. The package contained catering by the Mobil self serve near the bridge…..Tasty pies and sausage rolls fresh from the microwave.
Apparently the crew were an hour late out of Melb for Brisbane and would have missed the runway opening hours (due runway works & holding..I guess)
BN Notam
AD C0266/03 REVIEW C0254/03
RWY 01/19 NOT AVBL DUE WIP OVERLAY/GROOVING. REFER AIP SUP H47/02 (STAGE 5) AVBL AVFAX CODE 81547 OR INTERNET FROM 04 211400 TO 06 161900 DAILY 1400/1900 SUNDAY TO FRIDAY
Would have thouight they could have used 14/32 at 1700m????
Last edited by barleyhi; 15th May 2003 at 06:05.
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Qantas or Virgin?
Ch 7 this morning was reporting that it ws DJ who diverted to Tamworth? Alas, it's past 0730 and I've lost control of the remote to my four year old and ABC Kids so I can't confirm? 
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Did the Captain wish them all "good night" 
From the ABC news this morning:
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said.
From the ABC news this morning:
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said.
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(From news.com.au)
Flight diverted after landing drama
By Sheree Went
May 15, 2003
PASSENGERS aboard a Qantas jet were shaken when a landing in Brisbane was suddenly aborted overnight, apparently because of runway maintenance.
The flight, QF 638 from Melbourne, was about to land just behind schedule at 11.10pm when it suddenly rethrottled and "shot up steeply", according to passengers.
There was no official word on the incident early this morning.
One passenger, 17 year-old Adam Gilmore, said: "It was a normal flight heading into Brisbane, the seatbelt light came on and all was normal as far as I could tell.
"... about five or ten minutes into the descent, we suddenly went full throttle and shot very steeply up and it was a bit scary.
"There was a VB can rolling down the aisle beside me, so clearly we were going up at a reasonable angle."
Adam, a high school student from Brisbane's Kenmore, was speaking from inside the parked plane, which was diverted to Tamworth Airport after the aborted landing.
The passengers were forced to spend three hours on the tarmac at Tamworth this morning after landing there at 1.30am.
Adam said he had been told the plane had to be refuelled before its scheduled take-off for Brisbane at 4.30am.
After the aborted landing, he said it had taken "quite a while" for the flight crew to tell passengers what had happened and that they were being redirected to Tamworth.
He said he had learned later that the long runway at Brisbane airport had not been available.
Adam described the atmosphere on board the parked plane in Tamworth as "not good", with passengers growing restless as their third hour on the tarmac ticked by.
Hiss mother Linda, who was waiting in Brisbane to collect her son, said she had heard only two announcements alerting the waiting crowd to what was going on.
"We are getting no information at all, absolutely nothing," Mrs Gilmore said.
"There is no Qantas person anywhere here telling us what is going on."
A spokesman at Brisbane Airport would not comment on the aborted landing, but said the long runway at Brisbane was out of action while asphalt was being poured.
A Qantas spokesman also would not comment, but said the plane would leave Tamworth by 4.30am.
It was due to arrive in Brisbane at 5.05am.
Flight diverted after landing drama
By Sheree Went
May 15, 2003
PASSENGERS aboard a Qantas jet were shaken when a landing in Brisbane was suddenly aborted overnight, apparently because of runway maintenance.
The flight, QF 638 from Melbourne, was about to land just behind schedule at 11.10pm when it suddenly rethrottled and "shot up steeply", according to passengers.
There was no official word on the incident early this morning.
One passenger, 17 year-old Adam Gilmore, said: "It was a normal flight heading into Brisbane, the seatbelt light came on and all was normal as far as I could tell.
"... about five or ten minutes into the descent, we suddenly went full throttle and shot very steeply up and it was a bit scary.
"There was a VB can rolling down the aisle beside me, so clearly we were going up at a reasonable angle."
Adam, a high school student from Brisbane's Kenmore, was speaking from inside the parked plane, which was diverted to Tamworth Airport after the aborted landing.
The passengers were forced to spend three hours on the tarmac at Tamworth this morning after landing there at 1.30am.
Adam said he had been told the plane had to be refuelled before its scheduled take-off for Brisbane at 4.30am.
After the aborted landing, he said it had taken "quite a while" for the flight crew to tell passengers what had happened and that they were being redirected to Tamworth.
He said he had learned later that the long runway at Brisbane airport had not been available.
Adam described the atmosphere on board the parked plane in Tamworth as "not good", with passengers growing restless as their third hour on the tarmac ticked by.
Hiss mother Linda, who was waiting in Brisbane to collect her son, said she had heard only two announcements alerting the waiting crowd to what was going on.
"We are getting no information at all, absolutely nothing," Mrs Gilmore said.
"There is no Qantas person anywhere here telling us what is going on."
A spokesman at Brisbane Airport would not comment on the aborted landing, but said the long runway at Brisbane was out of action while asphalt was being poured.
A Qantas spokesman also would not comment, but said the plane would leave Tamworth by 4.30am.
It was due to arrive in Brisbane at 5.05am.
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Qantas Diversion
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Posted: Thur, 15 May 2003 6:52 AEST
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said
Posted: Thur, 15 May 2003 6:52 AEST
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said
QF638 go-around and diversion at YBBN
Seems a Qantas flight from Melbourne executed a go-around on approach into Brisbane last night due to maintenance being conducted on the runway (01/19)- allegedly asphalt (perhaps concrete??) being poured. Flight was then diverted to Tamworth where it sat on the apron for 3 hours - lots of unhappy pax. No comment from Qantas or ATSB as yet.
Was the flight cleared to land on that runway? If so, how??? If not...................???????
Or just a beat-up?
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Was the flight cleared to land on that runway? If so, how??? If not...................???????
Or just a beat-up?
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Last Update: Thursday, May 15, 2003. 6:52am (AEST)
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said.
."Michael Sharp from Qantas says the pilot had planned to use the cross runway in Brisbane but aborted the landing because of weather conditions.
"It would've been a difficult one for the passengers and that is regrettable and we apologise for that, however I understand while in Tamworth the pilot was hopeful the main runway would be made available soon.
"That obviously didn't happen until 5:00am but as I said these decisions were all made in the interests of safety
Last Update: Thursday, May 15, 2003. 6:52am (AEST)
Passengers spend night on diverted plane
Eighty Qantas passengers have had an uncomfortable night sitting in a plane at Tamworth airport in New South Wales after their flight from Melbourne to Brisbane was diverted.
Passenger Dick Wright says the plane left Melbourne an hour late and the landing in Brisbane was aborted because of bad weather and repairs to the runway.
He says the plane landed in Tamworth where passengers were told they had to stay in the plane because there was no accommodation.
Mr Wright says passengers spent almost four hours in Tamworth before being flown back to Brisbane around 5:30am AEST.
"We shouldn't have left Melbourne if the weather was so bad and the runway was under repair and they knew they couldn't land. It was a safety issue," he said.
."Michael Sharp from Qantas says the pilot had planned to use the cross runway in Brisbane but aborted the landing because of weather conditions.
"It would've been a difficult one for the passengers and that is regrettable and we apologise for that, however I understand while in Tamworth the pilot was hopeful the main runway would be made available soon.
"That obviously didn't happen until 5:00am but as I said these decisions were all made in the interests of safety
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Why does QF continue to expand the myth that there is only one pilot on board.
"Michael Sharp from Qantas says the pilot had planned" etc
Secondly congratulations to QF, the lesson from QF1 has been learned.
If you can't make a safe stable approach go-around, what is the big deal, apart from the microwave pies, pasties and sausage rolls in TW
"Michael Sharp from Qantas says the pilot had planned" etc
Secondly congratulations to QF, the lesson from QF1 has been learned.
If you can't make a safe stable approach go-around, what is the big deal, apart from the microwave pies, pasties and sausage rolls in TW
WFD!
For a 4 hour transit, why would the passengers need accomodation? It would be a logistical nightmare at that hour of the morning.
You would think they could have opened the terminal!
You would think they could have opened the terminal!
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Definately QF then!
OK, I got it wrong earlier (that'll learn me for feeding kids and listening to news at the same time!).
Couple of issues here. The actual events of the diversion and what was told to the punters I'll leave alone.
Reporting by the media though. ROFLMAO. Just watched the Ch 7 1030hrs news and they had an interview with a kid- don't know if it was the same kid as before. Excerpts from the above though!
That puts you about 10,000 feet unless his time estimate is out between 100 and 400%.
What, like normally happens when the aircraft takes off?
This happens when the aircraft is 'straight and level' so yeah, it must have been a 'reasonable angle'.
Goodness knows those pilots should tell the passengers the very second something is not quite right. Never mind flying the aeroplane, getting weathers, arranging clearances etc. Just tell the passengers straight away.
Anyway, lots of things here. Weather (which may have precluded an approach and landing onto 14/32), runway works, etc, etc. Should be interesting in the wash up.
Couple of issues here. The actual events of the diversion and what was told to the punters I'll leave alone.
Reporting by the media though. ROFLMAO. Just watched the Ch 7 1030hrs news and they had an interview with a kid- don't know if it was the same kid as before. Excerpts from the above though!
about five or ten minutes into the descent...
..we suddenly went full throttle and shot very steeply up and it was a bit scary.
There was a VB can rolling down the aisle beside me, so clearly we were going up at a reasonable angle."
After the aborted landing, he said it had taken "quite a while" for the flight crew to tell passengers what had happened...
Anyway, lots of things here. Weather (which may have precluded an approach and landing onto 14/32), runway works, etc, etc. Should be interesting in the wash up.
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Was there a NOTAM out regarding the runway repairs? Either way, someone's butt is going to get kicked......
Funny how the "credible" journos rely on passenger info as being the ones to decide what is or isn't safe for heavy jet / airline ops.
Funny how the "credible" journos rely on passenger info as being the ones to decide what is or isn't safe for heavy jet / airline ops.
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How about this for a scenario though?
Crew running an hour late. Departs knowing that RW 19/01 will be shut but know that they can land on 14/32. Weather closes in a bit more than forecast and now 14 not available either. Weather at OOL no good, wx up the coast at Maroochy no good, can't divert back to SYD due curfew so aircraft diverts to Tamworth.
Now, I have absolutely no idea if I'm even close to the mark but my scenario isn't out of the realms of possibilities. Indeed apart from the crews actions WRT information, no one may get backside kicked and someone may get praised for handling a tough job well.
At the moment though, none of us (and least of all the media) have a clue as to what happened or why.
Crew running an hour late. Departs knowing that RW 19/01 will be shut but know that they can land on 14/32. Weather closes in a bit more than forecast and now 14 not available either. Weather at OOL no good, wx up the coast at Maroochy no good, can't divert back to SYD due curfew so aircraft diverts to Tamworth.
Now, I have absolutely no idea if I'm even close to the mark but my scenario isn't out of the realms of possibilities. Indeed apart from the crews actions WRT information, no one may get backside kicked and someone may get praised for handling a tough job well.
At the moment though, none of us (and least of all the media) have a clue as to what happened or why.
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These punters were damned lucky that the crew didn't walk off due to duty hour limitations!!! 
As it was, the servo probably gave them better food anyway!
As it was, the servo probably gave them better food anyway!
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Calling for hotel rooms for a tech stop is stupid in my opinion, not opening up ther terminal so the punters can get out is also silly though. In experence with QF ground staff, those claims of only two broadcast to waiting people is so typical. Maybe it was just to busy at BN after 2am this morning. There is nothing wrong with a go around, ever. Don't hang to much poo on the boys and girls on the front line in the 737, they have to deal with there ground departments too. But on a happy note, the only thing in life that is for sure is if you just feel like a bit of abuse by arrogant snotty nose dwebs, check in at a QF counter in Brissy. They wont let you down. 
