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am presently converting CPL-A to CPL-H, in sitting these exams I have seen some really ordinary and inconsitent questions,
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Q. what symptom could indicate a magneto failure inflight ?
a. Rough running
b. Reduced airspeed
c. Increased power available
d. Reduced power available
has anyone else out there experienced this, who did you address your concerns to, how did they deal with your concerns, did they agree with any of your concerns and give you the marks on a re-mark.
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Q. what symptom could indicate a magneto failure inflight ?
a. Rough running
b. Reduced airspeed
c. Increased power available
d. Reduced power available
has anyone else out there experienced this, who did you address your concerns to, how did they deal with your concerns, did they agree with any of your concerns and give you the marks on a re-mark.
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I am in the process of doing the same change over and have just sat an exam and had the same problem. I was battling to recall what the damn question was actually asking by the time I finished reading the question. I dont believe that the exam is questioning my knowledge of aerodynamics or even questioning my knowledge of anydamnthing apart from my ability to decypher the friggen question.
why don't they ask a straight forward question and test the knowledge that is required to operate the damn machine.
I was also asked quite a few questions about the internal workings of a few instruments that have absolutley nothing to do with reading them or understanding what they did......... they seem to forget that I am just the guy that looks at the damn things, not repairs them.
why do they word the questions in such a way that the answer could be one of many......depends on all the variables.....and they dont bother to add the variables.
all in all I think the whole exam was a waste of every ones time and effort and so does anyone in the industry that I have spoken to.
Oh, I did manage to pass the subject, so it isnt sour grapes, just wish they could be testing my knowledge of whatever the subject that is being tested, is, and not how well I am able to interpret a very fuzzy question or my knowladge of the english language.(coz I'm australian not english)
why don't they ask a straight forward question and test the knowledge that is required to operate the damn machine.
I was also asked quite a few questions about the internal workings of a few instruments that have absolutley nothing to do with reading them or understanding what they did......... they seem to forget that I am just the guy that looks at the damn things, not repairs them.
why do they word the questions in such a way that the answer could be one of many......depends on all the variables.....and they dont bother to add the variables.
all in all I think the whole exam was a waste of every ones time and effort and so does anyone in the industry that I have spoken to.
Oh, I did manage to pass the subject, so it isnt sour grapes, just wish they could be testing my knowledge of whatever the subject that is being tested, is, and not how well I am able to interpret a very fuzzy question or my knowladge of the english language.(coz I'm australian not english)
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Well they should call the exam "Conundrum solving" and not freaken "Aerodynamics" then. If they did this I could study conundrum solving and pass with ease.
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Ash767, with all due respect, i would have to strongly disagree with what you are saying, my concerns have nothing to do with the comprehensability of the questions, more to do with the ability to effectively asses ones knowledge in the relevant field, with examinations that are multiple choice there needs to be clearly one answer that is totally correct, as opposed to my example above, all those answers could be correct under certain circumstances, but a,b and d will in practise be seen.
c could even be the answer if the engine was leaned to 25 degrees lean of peak ( although not a normal thing to expect ) before the magneto failure.
in my jaded opinion the new sytem is better for frequency of exams but content is by far less "fitting".
c could even be the answer if the engine was leaned to 25 degrees lean of peak ( although not a normal thing to expect ) before the magneto failure.
in my jaded opinion the new sytem is better for frequency of exams but content is by far less "fitting".
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Thanks Wing Root.
Just for those of you interested, the cost is made up of two sets of fee's; CASA's and the ASL supervision fee's.
The totals:
PPL -> $145
CPL -> $563 (as Wing Root stated)
ATPL -> $639
IREX -> $164
TOTAL --> $1511
Boy, that's a lot of money for exams.
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Just for those of you interested, the cost is made up of two sets of fee's; CASA's and the ASL supervision fee's.
The totals:
PPL -> $145
CPL -> $563 (as Wing Root stated)
ATPL -> $639
IREX -> $164
TOTAL --> $1511
Boy, that's a lot of money for exams.
SP
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can it be that I am one of very few that thinks these exams are not very well constructed ?, i wonder.
people have your voice heard, i can assure you the CASA folk frequent PPRUNE for gossip and feedback.
people have your voice heard, i can assure you the CASA folk frequent PPRUNE for gossip and feedback.
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A little birdy told me that the exam questions for CPL (7 different subjects) had been changed of late.
So in other words, Uncle Trevor Thom and Aunty Bob Tait have totally missed the boat in regards to exam question layout!
Just a thought......
So in other words, Uncle Trevor Thom and Aunty Bob Tait have totally missed the boat in regards to exam question layout!
Just a thought......
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If casa people do frequently read these posts, then first off, and I am sure everyone will agree that the cost of these exams is too high... to cover a supervision fee?? It is hard to imagine that if you have a room, with 10 candidates, each paying an average of $60 per exam... is needed to cover one person sitting in a chair reading a paper for no more than 3.5 hours!!! The computer does the rest. I also find it hard to justify that it costs $20 to change the date of an exam... again the computer does everything... doesn't it???
Can anyone fill us in on why the cost of exams jumped SO much with the introduction of cyber exams???
I have recently started ATPL Aeroplanes and agree that some questions can be difficult to answer. They are often very different to any practice exams, and sometimes none of the answers seem to be 100% correct. I feel most of the questions require more information for it to be answered properly.
Looking at the costs in the past, but when I did my CPL theory it cost me $100 for a whole day, and I feel the supervisor did more back then than they do now!!!
You also have an option at the conclusion of the cyberexam to report any questions you don't agree with, I have never done it myself, but been close a few times...
Can anyone fill us in on why the cost of exams jumped SO much with the introduction of cyber exams???
I have recently started ATPL Aeroplanes and agree that some questions can be difficult to answer. They are often very different to any practice exams, and sometimes none of the answers seem to be 100% correct. I feel most of the questions require more information for it to be answered properly.
Looking at the costs in the past, but when I did my CPL theory it cost me $100 for a whole day, and I feel the supervisor did more back then than they do now!!!
You also have an option at the conclusion of the cyberexam to report any questions you don't agree with, I have never done it myself, but been close a few times...
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I guess we can blame that on the capitalist approach that CASA is taking. How on earth does the increase in costs relate to a safety issue. It must make sense to someone on Capital Hill so to speak but it makes no sense to me. The development of the software infrastruture believe me would not have cost as much as they are making out of each candidate. Take note CASA
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I guess we can blame that on the capitalist approach that CASA is taking. How on earth does the increase in costs relate to a safety issue. It must make sense to someone on Capital Hill so to speak but it makes no sense to me. The development of the software infrastruture believe me would not have cost as much as they are making out of each candidate. Take note CASA
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Hi Ash -
You don't get KDRs??
What exam are you doing? All the ones I have done as a cyberexam I have been issued with a KDR.. sure you are not just excited about passing and leaving too early???
totally agree with you ang... this approach is rearing its head in all areas of GA now, increase services charges and so on...
The only reason I can afford my ATPLs at this stage is because I am currently working in a well paying job outside of the industry, hoping that I will be able to get back into it in about six months time.
Maybe in the next issue of ASLs newsletter they can explain why the charges are so high. I would like to see that!
You don't get KDRs??
What exam are you doing? All the ones I have done as a cyberexam I have been issued with a KDR.. sure you are not just excited about passing and leaving too early???
totally agree with you ang... this approach is rearing its head in all areas of GA now, increase services charges and so on...
The only reason I can afford my ATPLs at this stage is because I am currently working in a well paying job outside of the industry, hoping that I will be able to get back into it in about six months time.
Maybe in the next issue of ASLs newsletter they can explain why the charges are so high. I would like to see that!
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You will see that I have deleted my post. I decided to have a look at my last ATPL flight planning exam. I think I was so bl##dy happy to pass I did not even look for a KDR. It is just after the exam someone said that you do not get a KDR. Maybe I should live by my motto "Never assume"
Wing Root,
Well I certainly do not fall in to the 100% category (I wish I did) nor the less than 50% one.
Ash
You will see that I have deleted my post. I decided to have a look at my last ATPL flight planning exam. I think I was so bl##dy happy to pass I did not even look for a KDR. It is just after the exam someone said that you do not get a KDR. Maybe I should live by my motto "Never assume"
Wing Root,
Well I certainly do not fall in to the 100% category (I wish I did) nor the less than 50% one.
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I am all for kicking CASA (when a kicking is due), but in this instance (the cost of Cyberexams) you either have the facility of cyber (and pay for it) or you keep the old costs and put up with the limited number of oportunities to sit the exams. The simple economics are that the "supervision fee" is there to cover not only the body doing the supervision, but also the cost of the room the computers and all the other 'on costs' associated with the provsion of cyber sittings. One of the reasons for the delays in introducing cyberexams was the lack of parties willing to devote space and terminals for what is in fact an inconsistent and irregular demand - plus the need to have the same costs regardless of where you are sitting (Sydney or Karratha!!).
Like everything you get nothing for nothing - in the main it was the bitching from industry that played a large part in CASA moving to cyber. So live with it!
On the subject of questions - unless candidates take the time to comment/complain about poor questions - for whatever reason - nothing will change. So again don't just bitch - ACT.
Like everything you get nothing for nothing - in the main it was the bitching from industry that played a large part in CASA moving to cyber. So live with it!
On the subject of questions - unless candidates take the time to comment/complain about poor questions - for whatever reason - nothing will change. So again don't just bitch - ACT.
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I reckon the costs are fair enough, and the availability to facilitys and more oppertunitys to sit theexam each month certainly make up for the cost in my veiw. I am saving more than the exams and supervision costs just going to the new place. It is about 650Kms closer than the old place.
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On the subject of questions - unless candidates take the time to comment/complain about poor questions - for whatever reason - nothing will change. So again don't just bitch - ACT.
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How do you suggest a student comment/complain about poor questions?
In a forty question exam, say you get a 1/2 dozen dodgy questions. Is a student expected to remember the question and the options they give as answers, whilst at the same time trying to pass the exam.
Remeber for the Supervision fee that they are paying they are not allowed to ask,question or discuss any part of the exam with the supervisor. Nor are they allowed to write down or take anything from the exam in order that it can be discussed at a later date with someone who knows anything about flying.
I would suggest CASA are playing with a 'Loaded Deck'
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On the subject of questions - unless candidates take the time to comment/complain about poor questions - for whatever reason - nothing will change. So again don't just bitch - ACT.
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How do you suggest a student comment/complain about poor questions?
In a forty question exam, say you get a 1/2 dozen dodgy questions. Is a student expected to remember the question and the options they give as answers, whilst at the same time trying to pass the exam.
Remeber for the Supervision fee that they are paying they are not allowed to ask,question or discuss any part of the exam with the supervisor. Nor are they allowed to write down or take anything from the exam in order that it can be discussed at a later date with someone who knows anything about flying.
I would suggest CASA are playing with a 'Loaded Deck'
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McIce - you dont have to remember many (if any) details. If you take the trouble to go to the CASA website you will find there is provision to make comment/complaint about questions - wrto content choices etc, but reasonably not because you dont like the questionor your instructor did not teach you that bit etc. Its a bit like CRM you have to make use of ALL the resources at your disposal.