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They just don`t get it bandit, do they??
Loosey, I`m really $hitting myself. I have no doubt someone of your calibre (or is that ilk, KM?) would have the capacity to land one on me from behind, because that`s the only way you`d ever be able to do it.
As for Jim Thompson`s disappearance, it was never suspected as a score settling. Communist insurgents or an attack by a tiger were considered the front runners in the suspicion stakes. Sorry to disappoint you.
No doubt it`s not your style because you wouldn`t be able to swing the bottle of Angkor. You`d have both hands down the front of your duds.
But, there could be worse ways to go than take one over the head from a full bottle of cold Angkor, couldn`t there?
You`ve got to be kidding; looking over my shoulder for a possible threat by a worm like you!! The only looking over my shoulder I do is when another attractive and elegant Khmer lady passes me (no doubt because she knows the real meaning of being a $cab!) and I want to get a look at the a$$ as well. Aren`t they just the cutest butts in this part of the world?
No doubt, if I was more of a man, she`d stop and say something like `You don`t look like a $cab PPK; why don`t we go back to my place?` and I`d miss out again because of my actions 14 years ago.
Loosey, I`m really $hitting myself. I have no doubt someone of your calibre (or is that ilk, KM?) would have the capacity to land one on me from behind, because that`s the only way you`d ever be able to do it.
As for Jim Thompson`s disappearance, it was never suspected as a score settling. Communist insurgents or an attack by a tiger were considered the front runners in the suspicion stakes. Sorry to disappoint you.
No doubt it`s not your style because you wouldn`t be able to swing the bottle of Angkor. You`d have both hands down the front of your duds.
But, there could be worse ways to go than take one over the head from a full bottle of cold Angkor, couldn`t there?
You`ve got to be kidding; looking over my shoulder for a possible threat by a worm like you!! The only looking over my shoulder I do is when another attractive and elegant Khmer lady passes me (no doubt because she knows the real meaning of being a $cab!) and I want to get a look at the a$$ as well. Aren`t they just the cutest butts in this part of the world?
No doubt, if I was more of a man, she`d stop and say something like `You don`t look like a $cab PPK; why don`t we go back to my place?` and I`d miss out again because of my actions 14 years ago.
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permFO just to keep the record straight.the AFAP didn't get their members to resign en masse so they could talk to the companies. they did it to protect assets that were threatened in the writs. these writs were trivialised by the AFAP in the early days, many AFAP head honchos laughing them off as a "tactic" the companies were going to use to scare the membership back to work. well the only party that got scared was the AFAP executive whom were ill advised by their legal eagles (that's another joke) to resign. that was a great tactic from an industrial viewpoint and virtually ended any further room for negotiation. the trap had been set and the AFAP barrelled in hook, line and sinker!
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"Thoughtful", ppk? Surely "thoughtless" might be more apt, assuming the thought process is a faculty he possesses!
C'mon, amos, give it your best shot!!
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Kap -
" .......... However, it became almost immediately obvious to me, following my action, that the MORAL ISSUES involved – of betraying my fellow pilots, and their families – far outweighed and overshadowed any industrial issues."
Just a bit too altruistic and facile. Are we not looking at some serious back pedalling and self justification here?
Could we be wrong in suggesting that you were ALWAYS intending to go back to work at the very earliest opportunity and that your "midnight" dash to return to the fat man's fold finally revealed your true colours ?
I believe it was only extreme pressure by the radical leadership few that caused you to have a "change of heart" rather than the fact that you yourself were gripped with an attack of "moral jitters".
Most of your posts up to recently have contained what I thought were rational and erudite comments. Sometimes one sided, but that's part of the argument and discussion that makes this forum work.
But your most recent ramblings and admissions are very disappointing to a lot of us and I now wonder how you think your credibility can remain intact.
" .......... However, it became almost immediately obvious to me, following my action, that the MORAL ISSUES involved – of betraying my fellow pilots, and their families – far outweighed and overshadowed any industrial issues."
Just a bit too altruistic and facile. Are we not looking at some serious back pedalling and self justification here?
Could we be wrong in suggesting that you were ALWAYS intending to go back to work at the very earliest opportunity and that your "midnight" dash to return to the fat man's fold finally revealed your true colours ?
I believe it was only extreme pressure by the radical leadership few that caused you to have a "change of heart" rather than the fact that you yourself were gripped with an attack of "moral jitters".
Most of your posts up to recently have contained what I thought were rational and erudite comments. Sometimes one sided, but that's part of the argument and discussion that makes this forum work.
But your most recent ramblings and admissions are very disappointing to a lot of us and I now wonder how you think your credibility can remain intact.
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Arctaurus,
Many, including the good Kaptin`s friends, are thinking likewise. He claims he withdrew because of moral issues, but I think otherwise. Even if he wasn`t rejected, as he proclaims, then he would have been put under enormous pressure like the rest of those who chose to sign.
Kaptin M`scredibility is seriously under scrutiny even by his mates and brothers in arms; more than ever before. I`ve said it here previously that the members had nothing to fear from those who declared their hands by signing and staying signed, but those who sneaked in the back door at midnight to sign, and then when discovered and `counselled` by the AFAP on the stupidity of what they`d done, changed their minds were the ones to fear. They then became the pillars of strength of the movement.
First there would have been the `phone call from an F27 Captain bleating that he was unemployable on the world market, and if you went back then it would effectively end his career.
That then escalated to minor threats, and if the recalcitrant individual continued his folly, then the really serious harrassment started, e.g., removing the sump plug from the car, painting the fence or car, right up to and including sending a funeral director to the weak one`s house to collect the body. Really professional stuff.
Maybe the undertaker with a tape measure hanging over his shoulder arriving at the door to take measurements for the box was the cause of his `moral jitters!`
Many, including the good Kaptin`s friends, are thinking likewise. He claims he withdrew because of moral issues, but I think otherwise. Even if he wasn`t rejected, as he proclaims, then he would have been put under enormous pressure like the rest of those who chose to sign.
Kaptin M`scredibility is seriously under scrutiny even by his mates and brothers in arms; more than ever before. I`ve said it here previously that the members had nothing to fear from those who declared their hands by signing and staying signed, but those who sneaked in the back door at midnight to sign, and then when discovered and `counselled` by the AFAP on the stupidity of what they`d done, changed their minds were the ones to fear. They then became the pillars of strength of the movement.
First there would have been the `phone call from an F27 Captain bleating that he was unemployable on the world market, and if you went back then it would effectively end his career.
That then escalated to minor threats, and if the recalcitrant individual continued his folly, then the really serious harrassment started, e.g., removing the sump plug from the car, painting the fence or car, right up to and including sending a funeral director to the weak one`s house to collect the body. Really professional stuff.
Maybe the undertaker with a tape measure hanging over his shoulder arriving at the door to take measurements for the box was the cause of his `moral jitters!`
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Kaptin M,
Regarding your post early in this thread, perhaps you can enlighten us, or is that regale us, with tales of your exploits in international flying. That`s real international flying of course as opposed to regional international flying.
It seems that you may not be the gun REAL international pilot to which you allude being.
Please go ahead and tell us all.
Regarding your post early in this thread, perhaps you can enlighten us, or is that regale us, with tales of your exploits in international flying. That`s real international flying of course as opposed to regional international flying.
It seems that you may not be the gun REAL international pilot to which you allude being.
Please go ahead and tell us all.
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Just interested ppk just how many a/c do you have in this wonderful airline that your in, as at the present time AND I'm not talking about forward orders for as we know they are always rubbery.
Please enlighten the masses as all I can find is B737 rego XU-735
Also how is SARS affecting this booming outfit that is a threat to the likes of CX. As you said previous standing room only getting to VHHH all of us here would like to know?
Please enlighten the masses as all I can find is B737 rego XU-735
Also how is SARS affecting this booming outfit that is a threat to the likes of CX. As you said previous standing room only getting to VHHH all of us here would like to know?
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Just one. But then, QF had just one, AN had just one and no doubt a hundred other airlines of the world had just one as well at some stage.
This post is a silly attempt to take the heat off the good KM since he hasn`t responded with anything on his international experience.
But I digress. Let`s get back to the subject. I didn`t say standing room only on the HKG flights. I believe I said that it was the best of our routes for loads, about 80%. May be wrong on the exact percentage, but never standing room only. You guys have an amazing propensity for misquoting, but then you`ve had a lot of practice misquoting `facts` for thepast 14 years.
The other thing I would never suggest is that I work for a `wonderful` airline. Firstly, `wonderful` is a girls` word to cover everything their vocabulary doesn`t manage to embrace, and secondly, I will never believe that any organization is that good. They are all just managements after all, and one need only read these forums to know how little most employees think of their companies/managements.
I imagine SARS has had an impact, and the loads to HKG are no doubt boosted by a drop in frequency by Dragon, but it`s an ill wind that blows no good.
Now onto Kaptin M since he hasn`t come back with a summary of his REAL international piloting experience.
He says that he makes no secret of his identity and indeed he doesn`t. He currently works for a company known as JAS in Japan, and they currently fly NO international routes.
So Kaptin M is an imposter and fraud on yet another count. The first, of course, being that he signed with AN in 89, and falls within the definition espoused by Alex, the author of the definitive history of the pilots` dispute, as a scab. He is a fraud on that count also, because when he finally was forced into a corner and compelled to admit that, he then tried to justify it.
So, Kaptin M, your credibility takes another pounding. If you were Jeff Fenech, Johnny Lewis would never have you get off your a$$ for the next round.
I believe your credibility is being questioned by a number of the 89ers, and you may just find yourself ostracised by your buddies just as we have been. The difference here, of course, is that I couldn`t give a $hit, and you will.
What a joke!!!
I`m going to have to stop dong this or I could end up as silly as an 89er.
This post is a silly attempt to take the heat off the good KM since he hasn`t responded with anything on his international experience.
But I digress. Let`s get back to the subject. I didn`t say standing room only on the HKG flights. I believe I said that it was the best of our routes for loads, about 80%. May be wrong on the exact percentage, but never standing room only. You guys have an amazing propensity for misquoting, but then you`ve had a lot of practice misquoting `facts` for thepast 14 years.
The other thing I would never suggest is that I work for a `wonderful` airline. Firstly, `wonderful` is a girls` word to cover everything their vocabulary doesn`t manage to embrace, and secondly, I will never believe that any organization is that good. They are all just managements after all, and one need only read these forums to know how little most employees think of their companies/managements.
I imagine SARS has had an impact, and the loads to HKG are no doubt boosted by a drop in frequency by Dragon, but it`s an ill wind that blows no good.
Now onto Kaptin M since he hasn`t come back with a summary of his REAL international piloting experience.
He says that he makes no secret of his identity and indeed he doesn`t. He currently works for a company known as JAS in Japan, and they currently fly NO international routes.
So Kaptin M is an imposter and fraud on yet another count. The first, of course, being that he signed with AN in 89, and falls within the definition espoused by Alex, the author of the definitive history of the pilots` dispute, as a scab. He is a fraud on that count also, because when he finally was forced into a corner and compelled to admit that, he then tried to justify it.
So, Kaptin M, your credibility takes another pounding. If you were Jeff Fenech, Johnny Lewis would never have you get off your a$$ for the next round.
I believe your credibility is being questioned by a number of the 89ers, and you may just find yourself ostracised by your buddies just as we have been. The difference here, of course, is that I couldn`t give a $hit, and you will.
What a joke!!!
I`m going to have to stop dong this or I could end up as silly as an 89er.
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PPK - I think what is happening here is that the 89ers are finding that hyprocrisy is a very difficult argument to defend. Kaptin M's defense of his actions have now descended into rhetoric and an appeal to the moral rightness of his decisions. They are even accusing you of vitriol and abuse whereas for years we have been reading the drivel of amos 2 etc. For years they were taking pot shots at AN pilots about how they wouldn't last in the "real world "of aviation and what would happen if they were silly enough to venture beyond the shores of Oz but as with a lot of their assertions it was all garbage.
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permFO: Let me enlighten you - an original thought in amos2's head would die of loneliness and boredom. Indeed, it would probably commit suicide on arrival in that chamber of horrors!!
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