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Are you interested in a PNG job?
Hi people. For a change, this is actually for real.
Anyone out there in the Dunnunda & Godzone area who might find themselves interested in spending some time in PNG flying RPT & charters on BN2's, C404's & EMB110's might like to take the time to email or call us asap.
The chief pilot of Airlink, Capt Emmanuel Kadiko has asked us to track down some more hardy souls to come up & join the happy crew up here in the wonderous land of the unexpected.
We are looking for pilots to spend time as FO's on the Bandits & then progress through to Islander & Titan commands & later to the left seat of the Bandits, as has been the case of recent times.
The new minimum requirements for entry into an Airlink flight crew position are as follows:
1000 hours total time
Aust Command Instrument Rating
Aust ATPL subjects completed & passed
At least 23 years of age ( Work Visa requirement )
Multi-Engine time would be nice but not essential
A sense of humour & adventure
We have an immediate requirement for at least 6 FO's & will probably require more in the not too distant future as the company continues to expand.
You can contact Capt Kadiko by phone, fax or email ;
Ph : 0011 675 852 2933
Fax : 0011 675 852 2725
Email : [email protected] or
[email protected]
Sometimes the email is a bit iffy so be persistent!
And the sooner the better!
Should you require any further info, feel free to email me on :
[email protected]
Anyone out there in the Dunnunda & Godzone area who might find themselves interested in spending some time in PNG flying RPT & charters on BN2's, C404's & EMB110's might like to take the time to email or call us asap.
The chief pilot of Airlink, Capt Emmanuel Kadiko has asked us to track down some more hardy souls to come up & join the happy crew up here in the wonderous land of the unexpected.
We are looking for pilots to spend time as FO's on the Bandits & then progress through to Islander & Titan commands & later to the left seat of the Bandits, as has been the case of recent times.
The new minimum requirements for entry into an Airlink flight crew position are as follows:
1000 hours total time
Aust Command Instrument Rating
Aust ATPL subjects completed & passed
At least 23 years of age ( Work Visa requirement )
Multi-Engine time would be nice but not essential
A sense of humour & adventure
We have an immediate requirement for at least 6 FO's & will probably require more in the not too distant future as the company continues to expand.
You can contact Capt Kadiko by phone, fax or email ;
Ph : 0011 675 852 2933
Fax : 0011 675 852 2725
Email : [email protected] or
[email protected]
Sometimes the email is a bit iffy so be persistent!
And the sooner the better!
Should you require any further info, feel free to email me on :
[email protected]
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PNG Job?
Hello PG,
Could you fill in some blanks please?
What are the bases?
What is the pay? In AUD or Kina?
Do you still have Twotters?
Are you interested in experienced PNG ppl or just looking for Effohs for the Bandit initially?
Are tours out of Brisbane available?
Is there a subload travel agreement with ANG?
There are a few chaps I have spoken with and they all ask similar questions. Might be a couple of 'old lags' interested in returning to the Land of the UnExepected.
Good on you for posting this opportunity here as there can be no better place to cut your teeth in aviation than PNG. Teach blokes how to really fly
Could you fill in some blanks please?
What are the bases?
What is the pay? In AUD or Kina?
Do you still have Twotters?
Are you interested in experienced PNG ppl or just looking for Effohs for the Bandit initially?
Are tours out of Brisbane available?
Is there a subload travel agreement with ANG?
There are a few chaps I have spoken with and they all ask similar questions. Might be a couple of 'old lags' interested in returning to the Land of the UnExepected.
Good on you for posting this opportunity here as there can be no better place to cut your teeth in aviation than PNG. Teach blokes how to really fly
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Not a bad offer. There are a hell of a lot worse places to build hours than Madang. Pilots at Nadzab have to negotiate the road to and from Lae every day, while those in ther highlands have to adapt to breathing tear gas on the weekends. Sure, the kina stopped sinking and has started digging, but the hours are invaluable.
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Hi again everyone.
It seems like we have some well travelled posters here so I'll do my best to fill in the blanks.
Airlink has been in a constant expansion phase for the last 12 months & is still on the go. Anyone who has been in PNG over previous years would barely recognise it these days.
Airlink now has 6 Bandits, 2 C404's & 3 Islanders on the go, along with a schedule that's constantly building. Hence the need for the new crew's.
There are basings in Madang, Lae, Port Moresby & Rabaul, but for those that love them no tours unfortunately.
The pay is what you'd expect & in Kina to make it more interesting... & I'll leave that to the imagination! Management is making an effort to constantly improve that part of it.
There is an interline agreement with PX but that does have certain restrictions with holidays etc ( 6 weeks annual leave ).
Anything else, just ask away... I'll try to furnish a reasonable answer!
It seems like we have some well travelled posters here so I'll do my best to fill in the blanks.
Airlink has been in a constant expansion phase for the last 12 months & is still on the go. Anyone who has been in PNG over previous years would barely recognise it these days.
Airlink now has 6 Bandits, 2 C404's & 3 Islanders on the go, along with a schedule that's constantly building. Hence the need for the new crew's.
There are basings in Madang, Lae, Port Moresby & Rabaul, but for those that love them no tours unfortunately.
The pay is what you'd expect & in Kina to make it more interesting... & I'll leave that to the imagination! Management is making an effort to constantly improve that part of it.
There is an interline agreement with PX but that does have certain restrictions with holidays etc ( 6 weeks annual leave ).
Anything else, just ask away... I'll try to furnish a reasonable answer!
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Pressure Gradient, I will be very grateful if you would advise what the personal safety situation is currently like in PNG. Early this year there was an extensive thread on PPRuNe about the breakdown of law and order and the horrors of living in PNG - female chopper pilot chopped up by intruders, rapes, burglaries and muggings commonplace, etc. As it was so extensive from several posters and not challenged I have to believe it correctly outlined the situation. I had contacted some PNG companies in 2001 but did not follow up after seeing that thread. After all, there are some countries where only the young and foolish will go flying, such as Angola, Sudan, Iraq and apparently a year ago PNG! Have things improved since then? Is it as safe as Oz, UK, US, Caribbean, East Africa, etc? I will appreciate your comments on the current situation.
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PNG Tours
Zed,
Mate, only a few companies in PNG offer tours. MBA (they call themselves APNG these days) have Dash-8, B1900 and Twotter Captains on tours, but they've only recently made three of their flight crew redundant (ring any bells?
) and with the value of the Kina dropping by the day I doubt that recruitment is big on their list of things to do.
Fubilan Air Transport (FAT) operates Dash-8s out of Tabubil Airport on behalf of National Jet, servicing the Ok Tedi Mine. Both Captains and FOs are on tours.
That's about it for tours as far as I'm aware, except I think that Hevilift base pilots out of Cairns on the Brasilia and the B200 and of course Air Niugini F-28 crew are all Cairns based. I can give you the contact details for each of the companies when I speak to you next, if you like.
Just remember, we can't get "pulsed" anymore. Now we're all just getting "linked"!
Mate, only a few companies in PNG offer tours. MBA (they call themselves APNG these days) have Dash-8, B1900 and Twotter Captains on tours, but they've only recently made three of their flight crew redundant (ring any bells?
) and with the value of the Kina dropping by the day I doubt that recruitment is big on their list of things to do.Fubilan Air Transport (FAT) operates Dash-8s out of Tabubil Airport on behalf of National Jet, servicing the Ok Tedi Mine. Both Captains and FOs are on tours.
That's about it for tours as far as I'm aware, except I think that Hevilift base pilots out of Cairns on the Brasilia and the B200 and of course Air Niugini F-28 crew are all Cairns based. I can give you the contact details for each of the companies when I speak to you next, if you like.
Just remember, we can't get "pulsed" anymore. Now we're all just getting "linked"!
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Try contacting quietales .
Hes currently flying a bongo in Lae and if the SP doesnt kill him he'll be fine.
Dont think about goin' near the place if youre even vaguely pussy.
Hes currently flying a bongo in Lae and if the SP doesnt kill him he'll be fine.
Dont think about goin' near the place if youre even vaguely pussy.
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Carrier... murders still occur there but usually only involve an expat as revenge for a perceived or actual wrong-doing. I've been in PNG a very long time now and not even come close to a death threat yet - except maybe on the roads!
If you're thinking of the place as maybe being suitable for the wife and kids, forget it. You'll be beside yourself the whole of every day, worrying about the possibility of rape or, worse, pack rape - the latter having almost achieved olympic sport status, by virtue of the amount of practice that goes on.
Burglaries remain a fact of life. Secure compounds help to minimise this, but are not a guarantee. Mugging and car-jacking is COMMON.
You will need to be a bit adventurous and have the ability to see all 360 degrees around you, just while shopping at the local market. But, then, there's all of life's other little inconveniences to deal with too, like :-
If you get a job in PNG, the flying will be the most challenging that you are ever likely to find anywhere. The scenery is breathtaking on clear days - and even more breathtaking on sh!tty days...
I hope this helps you and wish you all the best.
If you're thinking of the place as maybe being suitable for the wife and kids, forget it. You'll be beside yourself the whole of every day, worrying about the possibility of rape or, worse, pack rape - the latter having almost achieved olympic sport status, by virtue of the amount of practice that goes on.
Burglaries remain a fact of life. Secure compounds help to minimise this, but are not a guarantee. Mugging and car-jacking is COMMON.
You will need to be a bit adventurous and have the ability to see all 360 degrees around you, just while shopping at the local market. But, then, there's all of life's other little inconveniences to deal with too, like :-
- Unreliability of electricity supply.
- Unreliability of water supply.
- Unreliability of stock in supermarkets.
- Very poor quality dunny paper.
- Phone lines that just stop working.
- Even ISPs fall over a bit.
If you get a job in PNG, the flying will be the most challenging that you are ever likely to find anywhere. The scenery is breathtaking on clear days - and even more breathtaking on sh!tty days...
I hope this helps you and wish you all the best.
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What is the progression like from RHS bandit to the BN2 C404, and then LHS Bandit? What is a typical days flying? How many hours per week/month/year?
Do the pilots have to sign a contract, if so how long is it for?
Your advice will be muchly appreciated
Do the pilots have to sign a contract, if so how long is it for?
Your advice will be muchly appreciated
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With thanks to OzExpat for saving me a fair bit of time in describing the situation up here; I second all that he wrote.
For me personally, I haven't yet felt endangered in the time that I've been up here, but then again I don't usually hang out at places where the nasty stuff tends to happen. I guess to live up here, it depends on what sort of life experience you already have & how much you depend on modern conveniences for your happiness...
Usually you wind up spending 6 to 12 months in the RHS of a Bandit & depending on your experience level, you do get to progress through the BN2, Titans & ultimately to the LHS of the Bandit... sometimes flying them all on a given week! Officially you need 3000 hrs total for the Bandit command plus a healthy whack of Multi-command & in-country time. There is a history of a case by case flexibility but not one that you should count on.
The standard contract is for 2 years & there is a ( fairly reasonably priced ) bond on the Bandit Endorsement.
Worth a look if anyone is chasing them multi & turbine hours...
For me personally, I haven't yet felt endangered in the time that I've been up here, but then again I don't usually hang out at places where the nasty stuff tends to happen. I guess to live up here, it depends on what sort of life experience you already have & how much you depend on modern conveniences for your happiness...
Usually you wind up spending 6 to 12 months in the RHS of a Bandit & depending on your experience level, you do get to progress through the BN2, Titans & ultimately to the LHS of the Bandit... sometimes flying them all on a given week! Officially you need 3000 hrs total for the Bandit command plus a healthy whack of Multi-command & in-country time. There is a history of a case by case flexibility but not one that you should count on.
The standard contract is for 2 years & there is a ( fairly reasonably priced ) bond on the Bandit Endorsement.
Worth a look if anyone is chasing them multi & turbine hours...
Grandpa Aerotart
PG Back in the good ol' days...ie Talair and, after it shut down, Airlink pre volcano we often flew all types in a single day!!!
And you WILL experience life threatening crime sooner or later no matter how carefull you are...it's just a matter of time.
Having said that the flying CANNOT be beat and there are MANY positive aspects to life in PNG... the scuba diving being just one, the Great Barrier Reef is a sick joke by comparison.
It's all a cost/reward continuim...do the costs outweigh the benefits...as with all things that's an individual choice.
It took me 13 years to get to the point where the cost I 'paid' for an hours fun in an Air Niugini F28 got too high to pay.
Those years I spent working my way from C185 through BN2/C402/C404/DH6/E110 etc were and remain priceless.
Mind you we flew the DH6/E110 Single Pilot...what DOES an F/O do in a Twotter.
Chuckles of the Chimbus
PS. And to wet your young appetites a Airlink 404 the day we ran away from the Volcanoes....one of the nicer schemes you'll see painted on an aircraft.
Airlink C404 @ Tokua Sept 19, 1994.
And you WILL experience life threatening crime sooner or later no matter how carefull you are...it's just a matter of time.
Having said that the flying CANNOT be beat and there are MANY positive aspects to life in PNG... the scuba diving being just one, the Great Barrier Reef is a sick joke by comparison.
It's all a cost/reward continuim...do the costs outweigh the benefits...as with all things that's an individual choice.
It took me 13 years to get to the point where the cost I 'paid' for an hours fun in an Air Niugini F28 got too high to pay.
Those years I spent working my way from C185 through BN2/C402/C404/DH6/E110 etc were and remain priceless.
Mind you we flew the DH6/E110 Single Pilot...what DOES an F/O do in a Twotter
.Chuckles of the Chimbus
PS. And to wet your young appetites a Airlink 404 the day we ran away from the Volcanoes....one of the nicer schemes you'll see painted on an aircraft.
Airlink C404 @ Tokua Sept 19, 1994.
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East Africa Safe!!!
Yeah right,
Thats why every compound has 2 or 3 panga (Machete) wielding guards at the front gate, and almost 2300 people are killed by ploice every year, 800+ are killed every year on the roads, you can hire an AK-47 with a full mag(47 rounds) for 50 US, not to mention the night fighters left right and cente, geez mate where in East Africa do you come from.
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I meant to spell, Police and centre.
Thats why every compound has 2 or 3 panga (Machete) wielding guards at the front gate, and almost 2300 people are killed by ploice every year, 800+ are killed every year on the roads, you can hire an AK-47 with a full mag(47 rounds) for 50 US, not to mention the night fighters left right and cente, geez mate where in East Africa do you come from.
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I meant to spell, Police and centre.
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Just something to consider.
In the early 90's 2 good friends and co-workers won a position in PNG flying a Bandit & Otter respectively. The flying was great and exacting, alas Malaria bit both of them and cost them the opportunity of major airlines. At least twice a year they are grounded due to a bout of the bug and on numerous occassions have lamented going there. The rest of us managed to progress upward.
There are some very very professional Pilots in PNG and it is a tragedy that medical issues prevent them from progressing.
Consider all angles before accepting a position in PNG and always go with the gut instinct, it is there to guide you!!
PIRG
In the early 90's 2 good friends and co-workers won a position in PNG flying a Bandit & Otter respectively. The flying was great and exacting, alas Malaria bit both of them and cost them the opportunity of major airlines. At least twice a year they are grounded due to a bout of the bug and on numerous occassions have lamented going there. The rest of us managed to progress upward.
There are some very very professional Pilots in PNG and it is a tragedy that medical issues prevent them from progressing.
Consider all angles before accepting a position in PNG and always go with the gut instinct, it is there to guide you!!
PIRG
Grandpa Aerotart
PiRG,
I would suggest to you that there are hundreds of thousands of pilots worldwide who have suffered from Malaria and are airline pilots/ hold Class 1 medicals...many 100s from being in PNG including yours truly...not to mention just about every PX pilot who ever worked for that company.
If they are suffering recurring Malaria all they have to do is take a course of Fansidar and it will be erradicated from there system for ever...or until bitten by another Anophelese mossy.
I have had both strains of malaria but have not had an attack since 1995 when I was prescribed Fansidar after suffering falsiprum (sp?), which is the strain that, left untreated, can become cerebral and kill you.
Many pilots don't make it to the airlines for many reasons, most of all just plain old bad luck. If these two choose to blame Malaria then I would suggest they are deluding themselves.
Chuck.
I would suggest to you that there are hundreds of thousands of pilots worldwide who have suffered from Malaria and are airline pilots/ hold Class 1 medicals...many 100s from being in PNG including yours truly...not to mention just about every PX pilot who ever worked for that company.
If they are suffering recurring Malaria all they have to do is take a course of Fansidar and it will be erradicated from there system for ever...or until bitten by another Anophelese mossy.
I have had both strains of malaria but have not had an attack since 1995 when I was prescribed Fansidar after suffering falsiprum (sp?), which is the strain that, left untreated, can become cerebral and kill you.
Many pilots don't make it to the airlines for many reasons, most of all just plain old bad luck. If these two choose to blame Malaria then I would suggest they are deluding themselves.
Chuck.
