Shoulder bars?
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The other night while I was standing in the hotel lobby checking out of my room getting ready for my flight, an American lady asked me where the Payphones were. This may not seem like an unusual request on the surface but she thought that I was the Hotel porter and the flight case I was carrying belonged to some punter that I was taking up to their room.
From Pilot to Porter in 3 seconds...
I wasn't wearing my jacket only the shirt with 2 bars.
I stared at her with a blank expression on my face and said "Wouldn't have a clue, I don't work here". Her response was "Oh....OK then"
From Pilot to Porter in 3 seconds...
I wasn't wearing my jacket only the shirt with 2 bars.
I stared at her with a blank expression on my face and said "Wouldn't have a clue, I don't work here". Her response was "Oh....OK then"
I love my job, and should I be lucky enough to get into a regional airline or greater, some time in the future I would wear bars happily to and from work, but I have to be honest , I feel a bit undercooked climbing into the light twins and single engine chestnuts I fly, with my w#@&!r bars on. I have worked hard to get this far but I haven't "made it" yet!
Walking into the local bakery with the w#@&!rs on touting to everybody "I am the local hero", just isn't on, not when your still charter anyway. Nothing against charter but try describe to the hottie behind the counter the difference between a Cessna 182 and a B744 when she gives you that blank look
Besides, I am only a little tacker and my shoulders can only fit so much heavy metal on them before the variable geometry has to be extended
There is nothing quite as useless as a meaningless maxim.
Walking into the local bakery with the w#@&!rs on touting to everybody "I am the local hero", just isn't on, not when your still charter anyway. Nothing against charter but try describe to the hottie behind the counter the difference between a Cessna 182 and a B744 when she gives you that blank look
Besides, I am only a little tacker and my shoulders can only fit so much heavy metal on them before the variable geometry has to be extended
There is nothing quite as useless as a meaningless maxim.
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I think GA companys should incorperate gold rope and tassels
into the shoulder bar system this would help with problems of
being outranked by taxi drivers as in Mr mcice case and a also
stop us from being mistaken for bus drivers ect.Where's my
monicle?
into the shoulder bar system this would help with problems of
being outranked by taxi drivers as in Mr mcice case and a also
stop us from being mistaken for bus drivers ect.Where's my
monicle?
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I had a great laugh a few months ago when an (apparently) new Captain of a Mainline airline walked out of Cordony Bros hairdressers in Macquarie Centre dressed in full regalia including cap.
He even had a good look around to see if anyone was watching
Young Jarsephine doen't normally swear, but she turned to me (laughing) and said: "He's a bit of a w@nker daddy!"
Nearly wet my pants, I did. Trying to keep a straight face
He even had a good look around to see if anyone was watching Young Jarsephine doen't normally swear, but she turned to me (laughing) and said: "He's a bit of a w@nker daddy!"
Nearly wet my pants, I did. Trying to keep a straight face
Up in Cairns back in the Sixties saw a guy climb out of an Auster. He wore four gold bars and a cute little star. In addition he wore large gold wings, a gi-normous wristwatch, a name-tag and an ID card. Turns out he was the Bushies chief honcho.
Nowadays Melbourne Yellow cab drivers wear two bars. You can buy any number of gold bars you like in the Pilot Shops and put them up. There is nothing to stop you.
Nowadays Melbourne Yellow cab drivers wear two bars. You can buy any number of gold bars you like in the Pilot Shops and put them up. There is nothing to stop you.
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NZ Customs/Security
At CX:
1 bar = SO
2 bars = JFO
2.5 bars = FO
3 bars = SFO
3 bars with 'S' above it = Sim Instructor
3 bars and purple = FE
4 bars = Skipper
'Wings' on Jackets only.
I only mention this because on a trip to NZ I noticed that the customs/security folks down there wear white shirts with 3 Bars and Wings.
1 bar = SO
2 bars = JFO
2.5 bars = FO
3 bars = SFO
3 bars with 'S' above it = Sim Instructor
3 bars and purple = FE
4 bars = Skipper
'Wings' on Jackets only.
I only mention this because on a trip to NZ I noticed that the customs/security folks down there wear white shirts with 3 Bars and Wings.
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Approaching 400 moons ago I was working for an International Charter outfit, directing their ops between SE Asia, Oz, and Europe, which in those B707 and DC8 days required transit and tech stops in the ME and the Gulf which was even more upside down then, than now.
My job had me flitting hither and thither through all manner of dodgy airport and border controls.
When they decided to base me in London for a time the boss takes me down to Savile Row and Messrs Gieves and Hawkes for a "fitting".
"What's this all about then boss, I look like a South American Admiral and I feel really really stupid with several cwt of gold and stuff, I can barely stand up."
"Steady on dear boy," he says "where you go, whoever has the most braid wins."
I gotta say, I was rarely subject to other than the most cursory of checks. Except the chicks thought I was a real ****** and after everybody around the place got to know me well enough, I managed to ditch the gear, except when dealing with some of the really important dudes who seemed to appreciate the effort.
I can't even begin to imagine what young Jarsephine would have called me.
Having said all of that if you have ever had anything to do with the London City businessmen, you will understand about the importance of dress and the wearing of "invisible shoulder bars".
I dunno I guess its horses for courses, but having worn a uniform for all of my school life, (with a straw boater no less) and being brought up in a time when appearance really did count, I still feel uncomfortable without my suit of "armour" in business with the "invisible shoulder bars".
In business it is a Power thing and you have to play the game unless you are big and rich enough to make your own rules.
I still drive my son nuts when I get into him about his attire which despite being highly expensive gear, looks like it's been styled by Vinny de Paul and his hair is very deliberately cut and styled to look like it hasn't been.
But then "what would I know."
Mind you I am also of the age when I see all these impossibly young Captains that look like they are barely out of shorts and still not shaving, bit like those young Policemen nowadays.
My job had me flitting hither and thither through all manner of dodgy airport and border controls.
When they decided to base me in London for a time the boss takes me down to Savile Row and Messrs Gieves and Hawkes for a "fitting".
"What's this all about then boss, I look like a South American Admiral and I feel really really stupid with several cwt of gold and stuff, I can barely stand up."
"Steady on dear boy," he says "where you go, whoever has the most braid wins."
I gotta say, I was rarely subject to other than the most cursory of checks. Except the chicks thought I was a real ****** and after everybody around the place got to know me well enough, I managed to ditch the gear, except when dealing with some of the really important dudes who seemed to appreciate the effort.
I can't even begin to imagine what young Jarsephine would have called me.
Having said all of that if you have ever had anything to do with the London City businessmen, you will understand about the importance of dress and the wearing of "invisible shoulder bars".
I dunno I guess its horses for courses, but having worn a uniform for all of my school life, (with a straw boater no less) and being brought up in a time when appearance really did count, I still feel uncomfortable without my suit of "armour" in business with the "invisible shoulder bars".
In business it is a Power thing and you have to play the game unless you are big and rich enough to make your own rules.
I still drive my son nuts when I get into him about his attire which despite being highly expensive gear, looks like it's been styled by Vinny de Paul and his hair is very deliberately cut and styled to look like it hasn't been.
But then "what would I know."Mind you I am also of the age when I see all these impossibly young Captains that look like they are barely out of shorts and still not shaving, bit like those young Policemen nowadays.
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hey Aussie bert,
that happened to me once. Except i was in a supermarket and another customer thought I was an employee and asked me which isle the soft drinks were in!!
that happened to me once. Except i was in a supermarket and another customer thought I was an employee and asked me which isle the soft drinks were in!!
