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Old 8th Oct 2002, 12:54
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I agree Echo , its a pity that this kind of thread turns out to be a bun fight when some of us are trying to get some honest/good info.
Back to what was being discussed,Does any one know if the RFDS are going to use Kingairs or PC12,s for the SY Ambo contract.
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Old 8th Oct 2002, 13:25
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We've been told it'll be B200s.

PC12s have been ruled out by the NSW government.

I dunno much about PC12s, so I'm not bagging them. I have had to shut down a donk in a B200 though, and was glad I had another!
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The original tender called for B200's less than 5 years old or X number of hours, must be old age I forget I think it was 2000HTT but the revised tender (lol) called for brand spanking new shiney ones
As for the PC12's I'm sure they are a nice AC, how ever when boeing bring out a single engine AC to travel SY-LAX and I get a promise that the engine won't fail late at night over Katoomba (lets face it trying to glide between the Three Sisters at night would be no fun) then I may be convinced. I guess that is why some one came up with a redundancy plan with two engines for AC a long time ago
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After some debate, I believe the govt decided it was more appropriate to have twins rather than singles on govt contracts, as a requirement for twins has apparently been a policy for some time now in carrying of public servants. The tenderers and suppliers of the s/e aircraft were not happy.
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Old 11th Oct 2002, 21:25
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Good luck to all the current AA pilots, I hope you guys and girls get the first bite of the cherry in the new shinny machines! If I was in your position I would be in the Ambulance bosses ear telling them you guys were loyal to them for the past years , so they should in turn look after those crews.In the new contract are they going to stay with the same number of Aircraft?
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Old 12th Oct 2002, 08:56
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Thanks wilbur same number of AC but mate I can tell you that there are very few general aviation companies that look after their employees on a financial scale, unfortunately the power of the mighty dollar and the willingness for other less experienced pilots looking to further their careers and prostitute themselves out for a short term loss in GA for a long term gain the the majors costs the rest of the GA community in the long run. But that's life and I guess it's supply and demand. It would be nice to find an employer with the moral fibre to change that, but in charter in particular if they try then the other charter companies the bleed their crew for money get the jobs. As I said, the power of the almighty dollar. It would be nice to see someone like the AFAP with some balls and power again to help us, as if every company increased the pay of the crew that would be passed on the the consumer in a global move, thereby allowing the playing feild to remain the same but then I think I saw a pig at FL180 yesterday lol
I am led to believe that if a company like Easterns (for example only) were to have won the contract they were going to be asked to make sure that any pilots coming through the AA would have to stay for a minimum of two years before being allowed to go into the airline leg. When East West and Sky West had the contract it was good breeding ground to train their pilots up. Most pilots that have moved on from the AA in SY have found good jobs, I guess as if you can survive single pilot IFR out of SY you could survive in any airspace in the world. IMHO
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Any movement at the station, It has all gone very quiet!
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Old 18th Oct 2002, 12:36
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nope still waiting to hear, if something happens I'll let you know
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Old 27th Oct 2002, 19:44
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Zed , Have you been given an interview or just interested in the process. I have talked to alot of people and no one seems to know exactly what proceedure they follow.
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Old 29th Oct 2002, 11:05
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Are all the Pilots getting interviews Kingair endorsed? If you find out could you post to keep us informed.Thanks
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Old 29th Oct 2002, 13:09
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Question

WA and Southeast branches have both advertised for hold positions.
Any word on Qld branch requirements ? How often do they recruit ? Do they have much of a turnover.? It would be good to hear from anyone working there.!
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Old 30th Oct 2002, 01:17
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RELAXED REDBACK;

Apparently RFDS Qld doesn't advertise. Turn over since Ansett collapse appears to have slowed movement of pilots.
They've just filled 2 positions recently at their inland bases.

With regard to SE section, I understand that ambo's may be on interview panel with tech. questions being the norm as well as scenarios such as "If a doctor/paramedic insisted that you needed to land at an aerodrome due to a critically ill patient, but this was against your better judgement (e.g. weather/fuel/strip condition) what would you do, knowing that the patient may die if you didn't land" etc..
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Old 30th Oct 2002, 10:43
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Do the Pearl Aviation Pilots have to go through the same process?
Can anyone else that has got an interview let us know what hours experience etc they have. Good luck to all the Pilots that have interviews, and hopefully they will require more soon.
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Old 30th Oct 2002, 12:22
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I have heard that the experience / standards required are very high.
(Never heard a bad word said about the RFDS Qld.They do a great job.)
Good luck to all those with the required experience.No doubt ,one of the best jobs in Australian Aviation.
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Old 1st Nov 2002, 01:39
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Wilburworm, for experience levels, please see post that I placed at the start of this thread. The RFDS may have more strict rules regarding experience but I don't think so. It is the NSWAA contract that states the levels or experience etc
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Old 1st Nov 2002, 03:24
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Relaxed Redback,

The Qld RFNS don’t need to advertise because of the ample supply of exarmy aviators being available for the positions that come up. So unless you are an exarmy aviator or belong to a religion that precludes you from working for an airline, then your chances are very low. Unfortunately another example of a boys club in aviation. As far as the experience requirements go they are constantly changing to suit the applicant at the time or to exclude an applicant.

After all this the turn over of pilots is very high for a supposedly ideal job in GA. Sad really, it is such a good use of an aeroplane.

N - Nursing.
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Old 1st Nov 2002, 08:43
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Thanks Echo,
How are you Guys and Girls fairing so far?I was interested in my last post to see if the Pilots getting interviews were already Kingair endorsed.Only one person has responded so far, so if anyone else knows someone that has an interview could they let us know.The reason I ask is that I have double all the requirements that are required,but not a Kingair endorsement.
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Old 1st Nov 2002, 21:44
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Wilburworm AFAIK interviews were completed at the base on Friday, some of the current staff are moving on and I am led to believe there will be some on active hold having interviews in the next week. Mate, its a good job, you work hard but its a good job, put in an application can't hurt.
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Old 2nd Nov 2002, 20:06
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Probably a silly question,but what does AFAIK stand for.
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Old 2nd Nov 2002, 22:22
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AFAIK = 'As far as I know'

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