Another Question for CASA: Are two CFI's better than one?
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Mace Windu - Are we talking Panda or Polar here? I fancy the Pandas because they are so cute and only eat Bamboo so the stuff encountered might not be so bad. But the Polars, no, not into seals, mate.
For your information, I worked at such an organisation which had 24/7 availability. It was mainly used for charter, the phone was never off and CUSTOMERS respected the fact that if they needed to they could get an aircraft when it was required. The SERVICE was very rarely abused by anyone.
For your information, I worked at such an organisation which had 24/7 availability. It was mainly used for charter, the phone was never off and CUSTOMERS respected the fact that if they needed to they could get an aircraft when it was required. The SERVICE was very rarely abused by anyone.
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Message for Mace;
Mace, I think you might have lost the plot big-time. I can name several schools right off the top of my head who maintain accurate and up-to-date records of all their students, recreational pilots and staff. The odd exception will be the 'walk-in-off-the-street-type' and that will only be on the first occasion anyhow.
Icarus2001 and Skychaser are both quite right - it's all about customer service and most of the operators that fail in this area usually don't stay in business for too long or they're the ones who rely on 'walk-ins' because they cannot maintain a steady, regular clientelle for obvious reasons.
BowserBoy; I know who you are now and I don't think the comments earlier were directed at you at all; I have not heard a bad comment about your particular service ever but some who work around you could get off their bums occasionally.
Icarus2001 and Skychaser are both quite right - it's all about customer service and most of the operators that fail in this area usually don't stay in business for too long or they're the ones who rely on 'walk-ins' because they cannot maintain a steady, regular clientelle for obvious reasons.
BowserBoy; I know who you are now and I don't think the comments earlier were directed at you at all; I have not heard a bad comment about your particular service ever but some who work around you could get off their bums occasionally.
Just thought I'd let bowser boy know I was no talking about him and he is doing a good job considering the poor equipment he has to work with. The fuelling and late hour hiring are two seperate events though both the same company.
And MACE lets keep the abuse to the minimum, we are all grown ups, hope you don't run a business with that attitude.
And MACE lets keep the abuse to the minimum, we are all grown ups, hope you don't run a business with that attitude.
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Skychaser, I like your thinking. I'm looking for an employee who thinks like you. Care to e mail me and discuss what you would do for my customers? I hope it's at a price my customers can afford.
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I Fly, thanks for your kind words, Mate. It's not often you get one in this business. I'm having trouble with accessing outside emails at the moment but if you like you can email me on [email protected] - I'll warn you, however, that I'm working in W.A at the moment so the job would have to be a good one.
As for you Mace Windu - Teddy Bear got your tongue!!
As for you Mace Windu - Teddy Bear got your tongue!!
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Mace (and someone should squirt you with same),
You certainly appear to have taken a flogging on this thread so perhaps you were a bit misguided in your smug comments?
You lack of response now would seem to indicate you were probably wrong and you're away off somewhere licking your wounds. Take care old chap and don't get too close to any bare bears bottoms eh?
Skychaser, you certainly got across to WA in record time?
You certainly appear to have taken a flogging on this thread so perhaps you were a bit misguided in your smug comments?
You lack of response now would seem to indicate you were probably wrong and you're away off somewhere licking your wounds. Take care old chap and don't get too close to any bare bears bottoms eh? Skychaser, you certainly got across to WA in record time?
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Guess who is back???
Well it is certainly nice to know that you have all missed me sooo much!
It's a shame that I haven't missed you in the same way
Well just for your information skychaser and THREEGREENS I didn't feel the need to continue on with this thread! Obviously I am dealing with imbeciles such as yourselves who have a fascination about bears and bums (Note that I mentioned it once yet it seems to have struch a chord with you)
What I wanted to say has been said and there is no need to harp on about it. So you can put away your little fishing rods and go fishing elsewhere little boys. Obviously you need to " get over it " and get a life
I will post when I feel the need to chaps. I won't unlike yourselves banter on like old women about useless things and gossip. My lack of response therefore means I have better things to do than you do!
Thanks for caring though 
It's a shame that I haven't missed you in the same way Well just for your information skychaser and THREEGREENS I didn't feel the need to continue on with this thread! Obviously I am dealing with imbeciles such as yourselves who have a fascination about bears and bums (Note that I mentioned it once yet it seems to have struch a chord with you)
What I wanted to say has been said and there is no need to harp on about it. So you can put away your little fishing rods and go fishing elsewhere little boys.
Obviously you need to " get over it " and get a life I will post when I feel the need to chaps. I won't unlike yourselves banter on like old women about useless things and gossip. My lack of response therefore means I have better things to do than you do!
Thanks for caring though
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Wow...what a B!tch fight, I'm all waxed up, shaven down, got the speedos on, so all I need to do now is find out which mud pool you guys are wresteling in and I'm there.
Gee Mace Windu-p arse, glad I didn't come across you through my training, cause I regularly rang up my flying school between the hours of 1800 and 0700 to organise flights and fuel.
I've taken note that you are saying you have only mentioned the Bear Bum once. Yeah....thats one way of looking at it, the other is that you are the one who bought it up. The only logical reason for doing this would be if a Bundaberg Rum add came on whilst you were posting and you had a quick flash of (usually I'd say "brilliance" here but now I'd have to say...) grade 4, as I think that would have to be the last time I'd heard someone ( a fellow class mate) tell someone else what they can do with a bears bum. Sorry windu-o arse, just calling it as I see it.
Gee Mace Windu-p arse, glad I didn't come across you through my training, cause I regularly rang up my flying school between the hours of 1800 and 0700 to organise flights and fuel.
I've taken note that you are saying you have only mentioned the Bear Bum once. Yeah....thats one way of looking at it, the other is that you are the one who bought it up. The only logical reason for doing this would be if a Bundaberg Rum add came on whilst you were posting and you had a quick flash of (usually I'd say "brilliance" here but now I'd have to say...) grade 4, as I think that would have to be the last time I'd heard someone ( a fellow class mate) tell someone else what they can do with a bears bum. Sorry windu-o arse, just calling it as I see it.
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Sorry, I've been away and only just caught up. "I Fly" I've been here for quite a while so I don't think I am who you think I am and I would say that you're definitely not who you think you are.
No email as yet. All talk no action.
No email as yet. All talk no action.
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Man what a sh!t fight......
I can see both sides to this little verbal war thats erupted here and to a degree can agree to things on both sides.
Where I work we, like most schools, open 7 days a week but keep normal (well almost normal ) office type hours for normal Ops. However, all students/customers know that flights can be arranged outside normal hours and we will do our utmost to ensure that everything is ready for them so that going on the flight is as easy as it would be during office hours.
If this means an instructor is required, such as night training, then they are rostered off during the day for the time required by duty requirements
Night training flights are usually pre-planned, so unless you are running charter I cannot see why you would want a school to be accessable 24/7
I have never had or known of anyone that has wanted to spontainiously go flying late at night.
We don't have many instructors, certainly not enough that one can always be rostered to be available at night in case some wally has a brain fart and decides he wants to go flying
Oh...and before some wise ass says why don't you get casuals and pay them for flight time, we unlike some other schools I have heard about, try to have permenant staff rather than casuals. We will only use casuals we have trained and its usualy not long before they are put on staff. I have seen many threads on here about how miss used casual pilots are and I couldn't agree more.
If a company is going to offer (let alone provide) a 24/7 service surely they would need a few staff to make sure duty times aren't blown.
Ok.....time to grab the tin helmet, hit the fox hole and duck for cover.....
Cheers,
P.O.M
Where I work we, like most schools, open 7 days a week but keep normal (well almost normal
) office type hours for normal Ops. However, all students/customers know that flights can be arranged outside normal hours and we will do our utmost to ensure that everything is ready for them so that going on the flight is as easy as it would be during office hours.If this means an instructor is required, such as night training, then they are rostered off during the day for the time required by duty requirements
Night training flights are usually pre-planned, so unless you are running charter I cannot see why you would want a school to be accessable 24/7
I have never had or known of anyone that has wanted to spontainiously go flying late at night.
We don't have many instructors, certainly not enough that one can always be rostered to be available at night in case some wally has a brain fart and decides he wants to go flying
Oh...and before some wise ass says why don't you get casuals and pay them for flight time, we unlike some other schools I have heard about, try to have permenant staff rather than casuals. We will only use casuals we have trained and its usualy not long before they are put on staff. I have seen many threads on here about how miss used casual pilots are and I couldn't agree more.
If a company is going to offer (let alone provide) a 24/7 service surely they would need a few staff to make sure duty times aren't blown.
Ok.....time to grab the tin helmet, hit the fox hole and duck for cover.....
Cheers,
P.O.M
