Straw Poll – Interpretation of NOTAM
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From: Somewhere on the Australian Coast
Big picture view?
Unless you have a REALLY good reason to be within 100 miles of Temora outside of controlled airspace that weekend, stay away. If you’re thinking of flying anywhere near it, maybe drive instead.
No reason if you’re in a powered aircraft and not directly associated with the glider ops to be anywhere near it.
If you’re air ambulance or similar life saving type service, then good luck. Otherwise, stay away.
But maybe I’m just old, lazy and grumpy and can’t be bothered with that s$&t anymore.
Unless you have a REALLY good reason to be within 100 miles of Temora outside of controlled airspace that weekend, stay away. If you’re thinking of flying anywhere near it, maybe drive instead.
No reason if you’re in a powered aircraft and not directly associated with the glider ops to be anywhere near it.
If you’re air ambulance or similar life saving type service, then good luck. Otherwise, stay away.
But maybe I’m just old, lazy and grumpy and can’t be bothered with that s$&t anymore.
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Joined: Mar 2000
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From: Canberra ACT Australia
The irony (I’m guessing unintended) of your comment is that before 12pm local and after 2:30pm local on each day of the competition, there were no gliders in the air ‘near’ YTEM (other than one powered one that I saw on one day, carrying the editor of a magazine). At the times I flew in, respectable glider pilots were having their second relaxed coffee, waiting for the morning briefing to start. At the times I flew out, the last class of gliders had long since headed upwind on the first leg of their task. The finishing line and landing track and runway for competitors returning intermittently to YTEM hours later were defined and easily avoidable.
Your ‘big picture view’ of the risks at YTEM is a mirage, due to you having been given only a few random pixels that aren’t focussed on the most safety-relevant information, resulting in you making an operational decision that may actually increase the operational risks to you. Depending on the time of day and set task, the ‘riskiest’ places to be so far as glider traffic in this competition was concerned were more than 100nms from YTEM, when the only flying things in the vicinity of YTEM were blowflies. And that is my (perhaps entirely quixotic) point. Just some simple refinements to the NOTAMs...
Your ‘big picture view’ of the risks at YTEM is a mirage, due to you having been given only a few random pixels that aren’t focussed on the most safety-relevant information, resulting in you making an operational decision that may actually increase the operational risks to you. Depending on the time of day and set task, the ‘riskiest’ places to be so far as glider traffic in this competition was concerned were more than 100nms from YTEM, when the only flying things in the vicinity of YTEM were blowflies. And that is my (perhaps entirely quixotic) point. Just some simple refinements to the NOTAMs...
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Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: by the seaside
Think the important point is that in the rules of the air most aircraft have to give way to towing aircraft which should be obvious because of their lack of manoeuvre ability and a rope between the them and the glider so the normal anti collision rules do not apply.
As to flying through a comp best of luck, was bad enough in a Cherokee on my qualifying cross country but having flown in a national comp decided it’s not for me even wearing a chute.
As to flying through a comp best of luck, was bad enough in a Cherokee on my qualifying cross country but having flown in a national comp decided it’s not for me even wearing a chute.
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From: sydney
Big picture view?
Unless you have a REALLY good reason to be within 100 miles of Temora outside of controlled airspace that weekend, stay away. If you’re thinking of flying anywhere near it, maybe drive instead.
No reason if you’re in a powered aircraft and not directly associated with the glider ops to be anywhere near it.
If you’re air ambulance or similar life saving type service, then good luck. Otherwise, stay away.
But maybe I’m just old, lazy and grumpy and can’t be bothered with that s$&t anymore.
Unless you have a REALLY good reason to be within 100 miles of Temora outside of controlled airspace that weekend, stay away. If you’re thinking of flying anywhere near it, maybe drive instead.
No reason if you’re in a powered aircraft and not directly associated with the glider ops to be anywhere near it.
If you’re air ambulance or similar life saving type service, then good luck. Otherwise, stay away.
But maybe I’m just old, lazy and grumpy and can’t be bothered with that s$&t anymore.
