Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions
Reload this Page >

Introduction of Danger Areas known as Military Operating Areas

Wikiposts
Search
The Pacific: General Aviation & Questions The place for students, instructors and charter guys in Oz, NZ and the rest of Oceania.

Introduction of Danger Areas known as Military Operating Areas

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24th Nov 2023, 00:11
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 3 Posts
Introduction of Danger Areas known as Military Operating Areas

Unfortunately, CASA has taken an FAA airspace designation and re-purposed it into a Restricted Area by any other name. Below is my response to the CASA consultation on AVSEF.

Attn - Eric Dallwitz

Dear Sir,

I have waited five years for action on the subject of the illegal declaration of Restricted Areas outside of Australian territorial waters (the 12 NM limit).

I am disappointed that CASA has chosen to use the term Military Operating Area (MOA), when the original definition by the FAA is so different. <https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/pham_html/chap25_section_1.html>

Note: They cannot be created outside of US territorial waters and VFR aircraft do not have to seek approval to fly in them. Additionally IFR aircraft in the US are always in controlled Class E airspace above 1200 feet AGL so entry to an MOA would be coordinated by ATC.

CASA has essentially taken another Authorities naming convention, but then re-defined it in a manner that mirrors Restricted Area rules (in Australia).

This will clearly create confusion amongst visiting pilots, but particularly affect the training of foreign pilots in Australia.

I hope that this re-purposing of the FAA created MOAs will be treated a little more seriously than is current in the AIP "differences" document:


Australia also designates some danger areas as
'military operating areas'. Flight within
military operating areas may be subject to
conditions.


Kind Regards

Geoff Fairless

Last edited by Geoff Fairless; 24th Nov 2023 at 00:13. Reason: display attributes
Geoff Fairless is offline  
Old 24th Nov 2023, 23:29
  #2 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 116
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 3 Posts
OFFICIAL

Hi Geoff

Thanks for you email. There was a lot of discussion about the points you have raised.

CASA did not make any decision about the usage of the term MOA unilaterally as there has been long running consultation with affected parties. The consensus reached between Airservices Australia, the Department of Defence and CASA resulted in the term MOA being applied.

Both New Zealand and Papua New Guinea use the term MOA, and these MOAs operate like the Australian model. I’ve provided some info from the NZ CAA below:

Ultimately, regional consistency was considered more important by CASA and other stakeholders than alignment with the US.

Regards

Geoff Fairless is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.