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Old 1st Sep 2023, 09:02
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Tropicair King Air nose collapse, Chief pilot flying

Tropicair B200 King Air, P2-JAU had a nose gear fail to extend. Blocked runway. NOTAM issued.
Minor nose damage, props damaged etc
Taxiway closed until aircraft jacked up and removed..

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Thanks for advising the incident occurred at Port Moresby-Jacksons International Airport (POM/AYPY)..

Reminiscent of the Moresby Gliding Club's first glider, also a Beech 200 Super King Air.

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Reminiscent of the Moresby Gliding Club's first glider, also a Beech 200 Super King Air.
but unlike those muppets, this specific pilot's credibility, experience, and skills are far superior to those who unwittingly ran out of fuel!
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Highly doubt the accident was attributed to pilot error.

The Flight Radar 24 data indicates that there was some holding done before landing and probably a couple of tower passes.
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No pilot error with the CP.

It's an early s/n airframe with the chain driven nose gear, not hydraulic. I'm certain the investigation will show a chain or gearbox failure most likely.

Incident Beechcraft B200C Super King Air P2-JAU, (aviation-safety.net)
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The joy of operating a B200 built in 1980, with a mechanical undercarriage system.

Not much the pilot can do, apart from pump the gear down.

The chain may have been over tightened at the last 200 hourly, gearbox failure, electrical issue-pretty arduous conditions in PNG.
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Stationair .. you are shooting from the hip mate:
The aircraft may be on different schedule to a 200 hr programme; more aligned with high ratio of cycles to flight hours.
We do know that Tropicair has the best engineering in country
Electrical has nothing to do with this; the gear failed upon landing, according to PNG AIC prelim report
Conditions in PNG are no different to Indonesia, North Queensland, Northern Territory and so forth. The point I'm making is that the aircraft does not know where it is located; its a mechanical device made by man and one day it might just let you down.
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Taily,
BB-415 was a laughable event. Made even more perplexing as the aircraft was fitted with an after market fuel computer, Shadin from memory?, and digital fuel flow gauges with low warning lights incorporated. An extra four flashing lights added to the standard B200 suite.
I joined the GFU just after the gliding event. the late WG spent some time explaining to me that he could not understand how this happened. He clearly remembered giving instructions for the aircraft to be refueled....
The God he prayed to, was not on the same page ....
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BL-039 is an old airframe and the incident appears most likely due to mechanical fault. I said "reminiscent" not "related" to the Moresby Gliding Club incident and if memory serves me right, an earlier King Air C90 incident I think at Jackson's when someone from the Government forgot to dangle the Dunlops.

The late WG often mentioned he was an Ace, but I didn't mind him. Far better than some that held that job over the years.

(The link gives a fact I didn't know - WG was born on Samarai, Papua New Guinea, April 1922.)
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That was most interesting re: Wes Guy, thanks!
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Originally Posted by tail wheel
BL-039 is an old airframe and the incident appears most likely due to mechanical fault. I said "reminiscent" not "related" to the Moresby Gliding Club incident and if memory serves me right, an earlier King Air C90 incident I think at Jackson's when someone from the Government forgot to dangle the Dunlops.

The late WG often mentioned he was an Ace, but I didn't mind him. Far better than some that held that job over the years.

(The link gives a fact I didn't know - WG was born on Samarai, Papua New Guinea, April 1922.)
From memory, the torque links seperated. Spat the lower assy out.
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"From memory, the torque links seperated. Spat the lower assy out."
That'll do it every time........
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Seven escape unhurt – The National

The "National" newspaper with picture. Pilot did a good job!
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Originally Posted by Stationair8
The chain may have been over tightened at the last 200 hourly, gearbox failure, electrical issue-pretty arduous conditions in PNG.
Most technical failures can often be attributed to external factors or previous fk ups. For instance, the damage done to station 60 by the previous muppets mishandling in Golgubip, can result in you being the one it fails on.
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