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Old 28th Jul 2023, 01:01
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Mid - Air @ Caboolture

Radio 2GB (SY) reporting a mid - air at Caboolture, reported at 0055Z, aircraft types, outcomes etc not broadcast as yet.

Collision reported as occurring at around 0030Z, emergency services said to be attending.

Does not sound good.....

Update....Reporting now, that "one aircraft now said to be a glider".

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28th Jul 2023, 13:37
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The pilot of the Jab was a good friend of mine going back fifty years. We flew together at Connair in Darwin in the seventies.Later he went TAA and I went Ansett. He subsequently went to EK and I went to SQ. Stayed in contact all my life. I recently completed his flight review last month. He was the consummate professional pilot to the highest standard I have ever seen. Weight and balance check the works and demonstrated great stick skills. It breaks my heart to hear about this accident to the point I think I will hang up my wings. He was a check pilot on the A380 and built the Jab in his garage. Loved aviation and was a true aviator of the old school. If he can be clobbered what chance do any of us have.
I cannot believe it was a lapse on his part.
Good bye mate I shall never forget you.
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Courier Mail reporting two light aircraft collided over the field with one pilot escaping wreckage.
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One is a Jabiru. Have seen a pik of the wreckage. Doesn't look good
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2GB reports from CH9 chopper which is overhead location suggesting maybe a glider tug and ??
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Reported in the media.

UPDATE: Media reporting two people have died. RIP




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Pawnee looks like minimal damage. Note the leading edge left dint.


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Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO
Radio 2GB (SY) reporting a mid - air at Caboolture, reported at 0055Z, aircraft types, outcomes etc not broadcast as yet.

Collision reported as occurring at around 0030Z, emergency services said to be attending.

Does not sound good.....

Update....Reporting now, that "one aircraft now said to be a glider".
"One aircraft said to be registered to Caboolture Gliding Club". Obviously not a glider. Probably the PA25 used as a tug. Registration of both aircraft blurred out in any online pics so far.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 02:49
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Sadly now reported as a fatal, presumably the 2 occupants of the Jab.
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/signif...ane-c-11414398
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Yet another aircraft taken out but a glider/tug. It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes.

The bloke in the Jab a very experienced ex-airline pilot.
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Yet another aircraft taken out but a glider/tug. It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes.

The bloke in the Jab a very experienced ex-airline pilot.
Who are you referring to as clowns?
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 04:38
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Originally Posted by Hoosten
Yet another aircraft taken out but a glider/tug. It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes.
I'm not sure of the background to your opinion. I have my plane based at YCAB, and I've never had a problem with the glider operations.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 04:43
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Who are you referring to as clowns?
what he means is these gliders are a menace around airports and a safety hazard and most of them can’t even use a radio correctly.
your welcome

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I encourage those who have concerns with operations be it Ag or Gliding, or whatever, to use appropriate channels to take it further. I’ve done that with one specific Pawnee operation in the past and the matter was dealt with. I argued with CASA that the issue is likely (well not likely, guaranteed) widespread and further reviews need to be conducted.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 05:08
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Please everybody, show some respect. At this stage no one will have any great understanding of the matter .

Bear in mind the media follow these forums.

How do you think the Pawnee tug pilot feels? Completely traumatised, I would believe. And now he's being called a clown on a forum that is viewed world wide.

Hoosten and triathlon, I request you delete your posts forthwith.

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Originally Posted by Hoosten
It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes.
I wouldn't have thought that YCAB would be considered a high traffic density aerodrome. Mind you, I haven't operated out of there for quite a few years now, and back then it was as one of those clowns at the back end of a tow cable. Things might have gotten busier.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 05:30
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Originally Posted by Hoosten
Yet another aircraft taken out but a glider/tug. It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes.

The bloke in the Jab a very experienced ex-airline pilot.
Your comments here are going to look pretty stupid when the name of the Pawnee driver comes out.
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The Australian Transport Safety Bureau’s chief commissioner, Angus Mitchell, said the two light planes – a Piper Pawnee and a Jabiru J430 – collided while one was landing on one runway at the airfield and the other was taking off from a crossing runway.

“Tragically, both occupants of the Jabiru were fatally injured. The Pawnee pilot was uninjured,” he said.

https://amp.theguardian.com/australi...eld-queensland



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Old 28th Jul 2023, 07:03
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I think we should cut Hoosten a bit of slack, he obviously has info I don’t as yet. I dread the release of names.

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Old 28th Jul 2023, 07:22
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Tragic accident.
Hoosten (#12) said: "Yet another aircraft taken out but a glider/tug. It's a real smart move having these clowns operating in the circuit areas of high traffic density aerodromes. The bloke in the Jab a very experienced ex-airline pilot."

Shame on you! Nasty troll.

Unfortunate nasty tripe peddled by someone who doesn't know anything about mixed ops (given the content of his message).
I hold a PPL, I also hold a glider towing rating (flying the PA-25), and am a glider pilot and former level 2 instructor. The gliding club I am at has airline pilots as tow-pilots and glider pilots and instructors. Accusation of cowboys can be levelled at GA too, look through the ATSB reports.
Gliding clubs will operate on the CTAF for launching and CCT ops. and use directed see and avoid like everybody else. At busy gliding clubs, ops are particularly disciplined.

Slagging off the Pawnee driver is not helpful. It doesn't matter if the Jab pilot was ex airlines.
If the Pawnee was landing aircraft, normally he had right of way, over an aircraft taking off, all things being equal. A tow pilot would go around if the available runway was not clear for whatever reason.
It maybe a case of each aircraft being in each other's blind spots, radio over transmission, misunderstood radio message, whatever.

Nevertheless, the factors surrounding this terrible accident no doubt will emerge.

Do not condemn, learn...

RIP to the souls lost.
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Old 28th Jul 2023, 07:27
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Is this the airport where you can’t see the aircraft on the other runway due to the trees?

One taking off has hit the one landing (or vice versa) begs the immediate question of WHY… Why are they operating on 2 for intersecting runways?

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