$100K type rating bond???
One of the biggest gripes I had in GA was the over inflated perception that owners had of their own business. They all seemed to think they were equivalent to Emirates or Qantas. It was just insane. Often led by a Chief Pilot who couldn't make it in an airline there was often animosity toward those who did could make it. They always got away with it of course because there was always a large oversupply of labour. That has now changed and GA operators will have to rethink their entire method of operation and that may mean the entire industry has become unviable.
GA operators will have to rethink their entire method of operation and that may mean the entire industry has become unviable
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Not sure where people are getting their facts from but my mate started their recently and is really enjoying it, apparently the bond is only around $35k for 2 years. But as others have said is $0 if you stay for the 2 years.
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When I got endorsed on the Navajo
They always got away with it of course because there was always a large oversupply of labour. That has now changed and GA operators will have to rethink their entire method of operation and that may mean the entire industry has become unviable.
We used to be a very smart country, but we are now struggling just to achieve the basics.
How long ago was that Checko? 70's? 80's?
Yeah - everyone knew it was well dodgy at the time, but the guy doing the endorsing was 65 and about to retire, so didn't care that much. ... and the guys getting endorsed were also aware, so were doing a lot of self study in the manuals etc. It all worked out OK in the end. Think I've got about 250 hours in Navajos, bit more in Barons. Most of your learning you do after the endorsement in any case.
80's - I'm not that old Yeah - everyone knew it was well dodgy at the time, but the guy doing the endorsing was 65 and about to retire, so didn't care that much.
... and the guys getting endorsed were also aware, so were doing a lot of self study in the manuals etc. It all worked out OK in the end. Think I've got about 250 hours in Navajos, bit more in Barons. Most of your learning you do after the endorsement in any case.
Yeah - everyone knew it was well dodgy at the time, but the guy doing the endorsing was 65 and about to retire, so didn't care that much. ... and the guys getting endorsed were also aware, so were doing a lot of self study in the manuals etc. It all worked out OK in the end. Think I've got about 250 hours in Navajos, bit more in Barons. Most of your learning you do after the endorsement in any case.
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So HOVIS and Neville
If an employee tells me they will be leaving in 3 months, or they have active applications elsewhere, I can then make an informed decision to train them up or not. Maybe there is another pilot in the company who will appreciate it more or perhaps is a better candidate, but junior to the first guy?
Just confirming you are saying that it is OK for a pilot to say anything to get the job, or lie to get the promotion, knowing full well all along that they will leave without meeting the undertaking they made?
You are saying that small employers should just waste their limited time and resources on anyone?
If an employee tells me they will be leaving in 3 months, or they have active applications elsewhere, I can then make an informed decision to train them up or not. Maybe there is another pilot in the company who will appreciate it more or perhaps is a better candidate, but junior to the first guy?
Just confirming you are saying that it is OK for a pilot to say anything to get the job, or lie to get the promotion, knowing full well all along that they will leave without meeting the undertaking they made?
You are saying that small employers should just waste their limited time and resources on anyone?
So now our newby pilot is obligated to work for someone for some unspecified amount of time flying his ****box Baron.There could be dozens of reasons our pilot chose to move on apart from a Chieftain being more cool. We could pick this story to pieces all day long. But frankly, I think if I had ever worked for the oh so busy Mr.leaf blower type I'd be gone too.
It is my understanding that it is common practice, if not mandated, that a new employee enters a period of probation, where an employer or an employee can end the relationship virtually at a moments notice without the usual obligations. I am told it happens on a regular basis but is normally a one way street in the operators favour, of course.
Trouble with GA ,as it always has been, is these pissant operators cutting each others throats to get the work at a very marginal rates because they are dreamers. No one wins in the end
Some pissant operators running ****box aircraft have no interest in abiding by the GA Award. Entry level pilots who can only get jobs with said operators fulfil a function as “meat in the seat”. They accept sub standard conditions, nurse the clapped out machinery ( in the interests of self preservation), build hours and move on. The operator makes 2% profit but claims losses at tax time.
Like many a marriage, it’s a case of mutual rescue, in which both parties get what they deserve.
Like many a marriage, it’s a case of mutual rescue, in which both parties get what they deserve.
So HOVIS and Neville
If an employee tells me they will be leaving in 3 months, or they have active applications elsewhere, I can then make an informed decision to train them up or not. Maybe there is another pilot in the company who will appreciate it more or perhaps is a better candidate, but junior to the first guy?
Just confirming you are saying that it is OK for a pilot to say anything to get the job, or lie to get the promotion, knowing full well all along that they will leave without meeting the undertaking they made?
You are saying that small employers should just waste their limited time and resources on anyone?
If an employee tells me they will be leaving in 3 months, or they have active applications elsewhere, I can then make an informed decision to train them up or not. Maybe there is another pilot in the company who will appreciate it more or perhaps is a better candidate, but junior to the first guy?
Just confirming you are saying that it is OK for a pilot to say anything to get the job, or lie to get the promotion, knowing full well all along that they will leave without meeting the undertaking they made?
You are saying that small employers should just waste their limited time and resources on anyone?
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They accept sub standard conditions
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