Forced landing near Bankstown
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Forced landing near Bankstown
Pilot was the only occupant and is OK..
VH-VPO Piper Warrior (Basair Flying school)
https://7news.com.au/travel/plane-cr...lub--c-8906205
VH-VPO Piper Warrior (Basair Flying school)
https://7news.com.au/travel/plane-cr...lub--c-8906205
Oops at Bankstown
Trainee was doing touch and go's when the engine cut out. The instructor attempted to make a power unassisted landing on the local horse racing track but sadly skipped across it, across the carpark and came to rest after hitting a parked car. No serious injuries but no doubt ATSB will be investigating the incident.
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his first solo!
I would doubt that.
In the dim dark ages, I was sent off on my first solo (also at BK) with the princely total of about 4 hours but the instructor forgot to say "only one and then come back for a coffee". By about my third or fourth circuit, he had contacted the tower and it was suggested that I should get my sorry a- back onto the ground ....
Cec was a big bloke and the little Victa went like a rocket with only me on board so I was having some youthfully exuberant fun, I guess.
I would doubt that.
In the dim dark ages, I was sent off on my first solo (also at BK) with the princely total of about 4 hours but the instructor forgot to say "only one and then come back for a coffee". By about my third or fourth circuit, he had contacted the tower and it was suggested that I should get my sorry a- back onto the ground ....
Cec was a big bloke and the little Victa went like a rocket with only me on board so I was having some youthfully exuberant fun, I guess.
It looks as if it lost part of the LHS wing on a pole (shown in the TV clip) prior to hitting the fence+car?
Interesting comment by the person first spoken to by the pilot post landing - 'it stalled at 300'". Although no mention of engine failure that's not to say it hadn't, and the comment simply related to the attempted glide out...
Interesting comment by the person first spoken to by the pilot post landing - 'it stalled at 300'". Although no mention of engine failure that's not to say it hadn't, and the comment simply related to the attempted glide out...
Actually JT it may have been a first solo…. the last circuit. The aircraft stopped and backtracked prior to its final circuit.
Does it count as a first solo if the instructor can’t see the landing?
Nice job by that man.
Does it count as a first solo if the instructor can’t see the landing?
Nice job by that man.
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https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...055Z/YSBK/YSBK
Listening to LiveATC.net it does sound like the same pilot on both flights. Maybe the instructor stepped off and sent him solo.
Last edited by bentleg; 19th Nov 2022 at 23:02.
Does seem like a number of circuits with an instructor on board, then instructor jumped out. The ATC recording would probably confirm it one way or the other, because there’s usually a ‘first solo’ call.
Looking at the ground speed it doesn't look like a stall.
VH-VPO - Piper PA-28-161 Warrior III [2842142] - Flightradar24
Eyewitnesses/journalists are notoriously unreliable and don't understand what the word means in aviation. Usually about the only correct thing on the article is the date. They've already reported it as a "six seater". At least we should be grateful that nobody is saying that the pilot "voluntarily jettisoned the wings"
There is an F in BUMFH....
People just keep on having the same accident over and over again.
VH-VPO - Piper PA-28-161 Warrior III [2842142] - Flightradar24
Eyewitnesses/journalists are notoriously unreliable and don't understand what the word means in aviation. Usually about the only correct thing on the article is the date. They've already reported it as a "six seater". At least we should be grateful that nobody is saying that the pilot "voluntarily jettisoned the wings"
There is an F in BUMFH....
People just keep on having the same accident over and over again.
It does seem like a "forgot to change tanks in all the excitement of First Solo" to me, although even if they started on tabs (typical) they should have around 1.5hrs endurance per side.
Having said that, on some Warrior II's' it's certainly possible to not quite swing the fuel selector across properly when changing tanks and, depending exactly where he was in the circuit when he swapped tanks (and what RPM he had set), it can then take a surprisingly long amount of time for the engine to cut. If he'd messed up a tank change during his downwind checks, the end result could look very much like what happened here.
Having said that, on some Warrior II's' it's certainly possible to not quite swing the fuel selector across properly when changing tanks and, depending exactly where he was in the circuit when he swapped tanks (and what RPM he had set), it can then take a surprisingly long amount of time for the engine to cut. If he'd messed up a tank change during his downwind checks, the end result could look very much like what happened here.
It does seem like a "forgot to change tanks in all the excitement of First Solo" to me, although even if they started on tabs (typical) they should have around 1.5hrs endurance per side.
Having said that, on some Warrior II's' it's certainly possible to not quite swing the fuel selector across properly when changing tanks and, depending exactly where he was in the circuit when he swapped tanks (and what RPM he had set), it can then take a surprisingly long amount of time for the engine to cut. If he'd messed up a tank change during his downwind checks, the end result could look very much like what happened here.
Having said that, on some Warrior II's' it's certainly possible to not quite swing the fuel selector across properly when changing tanks and, depending exactly where he was in the circuit when he swapped tanks (and what RPM he had set), it can then take a surprisingly long amount of time for the engine to cut. If he'd messed up a tank change during his downwind checks, the end result could look very much like what happened here.
Warrior IIs and IIIs describe almost everything I've flown in recent years and the fuel selector issue is common to both (and many other Cherokee singles). It's really not a big deal.. it's just important to switch it positively and correctly and not to the 'off' position (which is easy to do in older models without the detent) and preferably not on downwind either!... unless you're up for a glide approach.