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Old 14th Oct 2022, 22:21
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One government bureaucrat cherry-picking the numbers produced by other government bureaucrats. Someone should do a survey of the accuracy of the information provided to BITRE.

And you didn’t answer my questions. Given that you posted some numbers, you presumably consider them to have some significance.

Usually the motivation for providing cherry-picked numbers as you have, without defining the terms used, is to ‘prove’ that ‘GA’ is going gangbusters. Is that what you were trying to ‘prove’?

The conclusion that I draw from the numbers is that the sectors of aviation with which CASA interferes the least usually survive and even thrive (and that government bureaucrats are adept at producing numbers that ‘prove’ whatever is convenient for governments from time to time).
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 22:26
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Moorabbin is a good example of the property development scene in Victoria. There are lots of examples of similar restricted use land that developers or individuals buy up cheaper than the relative free use land and speculate that things will change in the future. Green Wedge is another example where large tracts of land are bought up for seemingly useless purpose and held onto long term, hoping it gets rezoned as the urban sprawl continues. Moorabbin I feel has always been run as if its future use will never be as an airport, very limited aviation infrastructure spend, and any chunks that can be sold are sold/leased out for income. If you put forward a plan to expand the aviation footprint you will get pushed back and delayed as that doesn't fit into the airport being closed due to lack of use agenda.

It's good to see that Tyabb has won its right to be considered an airport and conduct aviation related activities. Against the wishes of the local council, which has proven in the past to be very accommodating to rich developers. Luckily the locals have some clout and pushback vs the council with a lot of locals active in denouncing corrupt planning activities, sadly some are well in motion before they can be stopped. But at least Tyabb is one step closer to some form of security. Pt Cook is another place we have to keep an eye on, the base is at least under the protection of the RAAF and historical points of significance for now, but the airfield is under constant threat from the surrounding urban encroachment.

It would be very unlikely to see any sort of government retaking of airports, and with large infrastructure like power grid and airports its hard to see them doing any better at the capital city ports, especially with the spending cuts around the fringes of governance at the moment. Having family that work in government departments there has been massive downsizing of some areas, especially those not in the public eye. I can't see airports getting anywhere near the funding they need, with marginal ways to recoup operating costs that private enterprise gets its sticky fingers into like carparks and retail.

Much as I don't like privatisation it works for the big assets, and not for the smaller ones, like ex GAAPs, as they can't generate the peripheries the big terminals can.

PS wide cut 100/130 ended years before most realised, green vs blue meant nothing it was the same fuel with different dyes. All fuel has been 100LL (100/130LL) since the 70s/80s probably. Green vs blue was essentially Mobil/BP Vs Shell marketing. And in the early 2000s it switched that all the fuel was made at one refinery and dyed for the retailer. It was a mixup with Dyes that led to the great fuel contamination issues of 2001.

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Old 15th Oct 2022, 13:27
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I remember when there was no Pprune. Pilots had hobbies, gardens, interests and saved all their energy for a days work.
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DV, You must be as old as the hills.
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