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Old 14th Jan 2022, 20:22
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But .. the most damning evidence, and who knows if the FAA have seen this ... are the two fire extinguishers in his trouser legs ... some eagle-eyed still framer managed to spot a few frames where you can clearly see the outlines of a pair of fire extinguishers, one in the bottom of each trouser leg ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/co...plot_thickens/
What was the theory here, he enjoyed watching Astro-Boy as a kid or he wanted to land near the wreck to extinguish the potential fire?
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Old 14th Jan 2022, 20:57
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Originally Posted by paperHanger
you can clearly see the outlines of a pair of fire extinguishers, one in the bottom of each trouser leg ...
wouldn't jump to conclusions too quickly. It would be more sensible to hide two of these, as you're planning to bail out and spend some time in the 'bush'. Water to survive, not to extinguish... But the conclusions remains the same, one big fake, irresponsible promotion stunt, which should be punishable by law, failing that, cutting off all his income from this insane InstaTikTube influencer nonsense....


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wouldn't jump to conclusions too quickly.
Look carefully at the photos, you can clearly see the pressure guage on the extinguisher outlined.

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FAA have asked for their certificate back.
Jacob: "What?"
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After only one year he can apply for a new licence?
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“During this flight, you opened the left side pilot door before you claimed the engine had failed,” the F.A.A. wrote.

Before jumping out of the plane, the agency said, Mr. Jacob made no attempt to contact air traffic control on the emergency frequency, did not try to restart the engine by increasing airflow over the propeller and failed to look for a place to safely land, “even though there were multiple areas within gliding range in which you could have made a safe landing.”

After the crash, Mr. Jacob also “recovered and then disposed of the wreckage,” the F.A.A. said.

“You demonstrated a lack of care, judgment and responsibility by choosing to jump out of an aircraft solely so you could record the footage of the crash,” the agency said. “Your egregious and intentional actions on these dates indicate that you presently lack the degree of care, judgment and responsibility required of a certificate holder.”

The post A YouTuber Purposely Crashed His Plane in California, F.A.A. Says appeared first on New York Times.
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The NY Times obtained a copy of the letter via a public records request.
“During this flight, you opened the left side pilot door before you claimed the engine had failed,” the F.A.A. wrote.

Before jumping out of the plane, the agency said, Mr. Jacob made no attempt to contact air traffic control on the emergency frequency, did not try to restart the engine by increasing airflow over the propeller and failed to look for a place to safely land, “even though there were multiple areas within gliding range in which you could have made a safe landing.”

After the crash, Mr. Jacob also “recovered and then disposed of the wreckage,” the F.A.A. said.

“You demonstrated a lack of care, judgment and responsibility by choosing to jump out of an aircraft solely so you could record the footage of the crash,” the agency said. “Your egregious and intentional actions on these dates indicate that you presently lack the degree of care, judgment and responsibility required of a certificate holder.”
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65567519

YouTuber Trevor Jacob admits to crashing plane for views

A YouTuber who intentionally crashed an airplane for views will plead guilty to obstructing a federal investigation by cleaning up the site of the crash, US prosecutors say.

Trevor Jacob, 29, posted the video of the plane crash to YouTube in December 2021. It has over 2.9 million views to date. In a plea agreement, he said he filmed the video as part of a product sponsorship deal.

He could face up to 20 years in prison…..

The 29-year-old pilot and skydiver has agreed to plead guilty to one felony count of destruction and concealment with the intent to obstruct a federal investigation, the US justice department said in a statement on Thursday.….

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Old 12th May 2023, 04:21
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20 years seems a bit harsh on the other hand I feel curiously devoid of sympathy for him deliberately crashing a perfectly sound aircraft.
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Looking forward to his youtube vids in jail!
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20 years seems a bit harsh on the other hand I feel curiously devoid of sympathy for him deliberately crashing a perfectly sound aircraft.
Intentionally crashing an aircraft could have led to the death, or serious injury, of innocent bystanders. That he did it for Youtube "views" says a lot about rabid social media adherents like him - selfish, venal, pathetic, mindless, shallow idiots. Trevor Jacob's actions were abhorrent, and he certainly knew what he planned would transgress laws, so if the laws transgressed demand a sentence of 20 years, then that is what he should get.

It's a case of cause and consequence, and there are an awful lot of people who say and do things on social media that need to understand this. How he ever thought he would get away with it, with multi-angle video footage, defies logic, and highlights his limited intellect. Let it serve as a warning to the many more buffoons out there. 🙄
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Old 12th May 2023, 10:50
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And if he'd intentionally crashed a car, it could have led to the death, or serious injury, of innocent bystanders. But I'll bet leftie that he wouldn't go to prison for 20 years if he'd intentionally crashed a car.

The mystique of aviation is ... perpetually mysterious.
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And if he'd intentionally crashed a car, it could have led to the death, or serious injury, of innocent bystanders. But I'll bet leftie that he wouldn't go to prison for 20 years if he'd intentionally crashed a car.

The mystique of aviation is ... perpetually mysterious.
Flying aircraft, even at the General Aviation level, requires more input of effort to obtain the qualifications, and should involve more care and attention to maintenance, flight planning (fuel and oil, loading, weather, routing etc) prior to every flight, than driving a car does. Aviation is subject to a different legal framework, partially because of the potential for death and destruction that could be caused, if aviators become slapdash about their flying.

You won't convince me that car drivers pay similar effort and attention to every drive they take. So 20 years incarceration for simpleton Trevor Jacob, for actions done entirely in the name of worshipping at the altar of Social Media, strikes me as well deserved.

Neither am I convinced that a similarly-minded idiot, crashing a car for the appalling idea of gaining social media views, who ended up killing or injuring bystanders, wouldn't be sent to prison for a very lengthy term. I think legal officials would take a very dim view of the actions of said idiot.

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Note that it's not just the crash but then the cover up of the evidence etc etc
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Old 12th May 2023, 17:42
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Note that it's not just the crash but then the cover up of the evidence etc etc
Absolutely. I was just saying - 20 years in jail is a long time.
A longer sentence for me would be losing the privilage to exercise the rights of a PPL for life, which I expect him to get and in my opinion he fully deserves.
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Old 12th May 2023, 19:29
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Well, regardless of whether the length of the sentence is harsh or not, I'm pleased to see an outcome which will hopefully be a deterrent to future cases of 'use of aeroplane for social media stupidity' - although this is one of the more egregious cases there are plenty of other examples out there of people doing incredibly stupid things in aeroplanes for 'likes'.
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Well, regardless of whether the length of the sentence is harsh or not, I'm pleased to see an outcome which will hopefully be a deterrent to future cases of 'use of aeroplane for social media stupidity' - although this is one of the more egregious cases there are plenty of other examples out there of people doing incredibly stupid things in aeroplanes for 'likes'.
Agreed. Like that bloody silly Red Bull stunt where the PIC's attempted to swap planes with each other mid-air.

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If he'd intentionally crashed a car entirely in the name of worshipping at the altar of Social Media andcovered up the evidence for the purposes of insurance fraud, I'd bet leftie that he wouldn't go to prison for 20 years.

The mystique of aviation remains ... perpetually mysterious.
Flying aircraft, even at the General Aviation level, requires more input of effort to obtain the qualifications, and should involve more care and attention to maintenance, flight planning (fuel and oil, loading, weather, routing etc) prior to every flight, than driving a car does. Aviation is subject to a different legal framework, partially because of the potential for death and destruction that could be caused, if aviators become slapdash about their flying.

You won't convince me that car drivers pay similar effort and attention to every drive they take. So 20 years incarceration for simpleton Trevor Jacob, for actions done entirely in the name of worshipping at the altar of Social Media, strikes me as well deserved.

Neither am I convinced that a similarly-minded idiot, crashing a car for the appalling idea of gaining social media views, who ended up killing or injuring bystanders, wouldn't be sent to prison for a very lengthy term. I think legal officials would take a very dim view of the actions of said idiot.
Thank you for making my point.
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Old 13th May 2023, 01:58
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Auxtank let's not compare Red Bull which involves large teams of people and meticulous planning to this numpty with a couple of cameras and a youtube channel, they should both face consequences for doing the wrong thing but they are vastly different degrees.
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Originally Posted by Ixixly
Auxtank let's not compare Red Bull which involves large teams of people and meticulous planning to this numpty with a couple of cameras and a youtube channel, they should both face consequences for doing the wrong thing but they are vastly different degrees.

is this the red bull stunt that didn’t get permission, and both pilots had their licenses pulled by the FAA?
or something like that? I didn’t keep up to date, only snippets, so I’m not sure what happened with all of that.


if so, sounds very meticulous. Just about on par with each other, just one had a bigger budget and more players.


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