Crash at SunShine coast.
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From: Brisbane, Australia
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From: I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things
RIP - thoughts to the families affected.
CYO was the plane I did my first solo in. Started my training in Cairns with Cape York Air just before they shut it down. I thought I recognised the rego.
CYO was the plane I did my first solo in. Started my training in Cairns with Cape York Air just before they shut it down. I thought I recognised the rego.
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Pilot named and more info here. https://www.9news.com.au/national/tw...5-68a87bc091f9
The link at post #2 says search commenced at 5.30pm. The 9 news link says the aircraft took off at 11.03 am and crashed 18 minutes later. It was located at about 9 pm that evening.
If the reports are correct it took a very long time to commence a search.
The link at post #2 says search commenced at 5.30pm. The 9 news link says the aircraft took off at 11.03 am and crashed 18 minutes later. It was located at about 9 pm that evening.
If the reports are correct it took a very long time to commence a search.
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It is an Aerobat, perhaps a manoeuvre went wrong.
I just love the way the reporter is walking through the bush, only metres from the wreckage, disturbing who knows what during that process, probably well before investigators have arrived..... I can just imagine, "let's drag this part of the wreckage over here for a background to give a better shot"
you would think the police would have more control of the accident site to keep these media people out.
Condolences to everyone that knew these pilots.
I just love the way the reporter is walking through the bush, only metres from the wreckage, disturbing who knows what during that process, probably well before investigators have arrived..... I can just imagine, "let's drag this part of the wreckage over here for a background to give a better shot"
you would think the police would have more control of the accident site to keep these media people out.
Condolences to everyone that knew these pilots.
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But on a serious note, this is not a remote area. There are multiple SAR helicopters in the area. One really can't see the value of sending a jet up there.
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Not sure about the others but I'm surprised as well, not that a Challenger was put onto it but that it had to come from Melbourne, was there NOTHING else closer in the area that could respond sooner?
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That would require helicopters, I'd think.
1.5hrs for the Challenger to get there. It seemed to go straight to the right spot according to the ADSB track.
Would that have been due to an ELT? I hope so.
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Pretty disgraceful if you ask me.
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Most likely after reviewing the flight data from mode C or ADSB, or the 18 minutes came from the location where the aircraft was found compared to the departure point.
Next there will be questions asked about why it wasn’t noticed and the usual arguments will come out.
Next there will be questions asked about why it wasn’t noticed and the usual arguments will come out.
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From: I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things
Originally Posted by PoppaJo;[url=tel:11067865
11067865[/url]]Pretty disgraceful if you ask me.
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From: G.S.L.
Could the huge time between crash to deploying SAR resources be avoided if they had left a company SAR letting someone know they would be out for an hour doing aeros (extremely unlikely to divert or change plans of the flight), and to start checking up on their safety within 10-20 minutes of the SAR expiring?
I'm guilty of setting useless SARTIMES (i.e. always at last light, thinking "I might divert or decide to go somewhere else, or walk into town for lunch without reception") but this accident has highlighted the importance of putting some serious thought behind when I set my SARTIME. I think company / responsible person is the way to go - not having to access clunky NAIPS, and not having that worry about sitting on the couch at home with your phone in your bag meanwhile the Challenger is gearing up.
p.s. QPS website said they identified location of the crash via phone triangulation. would hope it was an ELT though....
I'm guilty of setting useless SARTIMES (i.e. always at last light, thinking "I might divert or decide to go somewhere else, or walk into town for lunch without reception") but this accident has highlighted the importance of putting some serious thought behind when I set my SARTIME. I think company / responsible person is the way to go - not having to access clunky NAIPS, and not having that worry about sitting on the couch at home with your phone in your bag meanwhile the Challenger is gearing up.
p.s. QPS website said they identified location of the crash via phone triangulation. would hope it was an ELT though....