BNA/MNG SFIS info
I quite like the idea of spreading the cost over those who benefit.
Le Ping. I can afford these upgrades but there are many who can’t and will simply leave aviation. It’s been happening for years.
Le Ping. I can afford these upgrades but there are many who can’t and will simply leave aviation. It’s been happening for years.
Last edited by Dick Smith; 14th Aug 2021 at 06:59.
class E to low level so the ATCs would be separating aircraft that were in IMC.
Is there a reluctance to on behalf of the pilot community (or particular airlines or specific pilots) to report visual? Is this because responsibility for separation would then switch from the ATC to the pilot?
If they're not in IMC then surely they are visual are then able to self separate.
Unfortunately, you don't turn airspace classification on and off with the weather.
If it's E, you're getting separated whether in IMC or not. My point is that there is a lot less aircraft in IMC in Aus than in the US.
AAHH...Dick,
I've told ya a MILLION times NOT to exxagerate so much......
I reckon you would have NOT been flying 'in the 50's'...except in your dreams....just like 'yours truly'.
I have NO 'ordinary' idea of wot 'they' did in the 50's, and I suspect, neither does yerself - March '44 would have been a 'good year' for you??
Perhaps we should all go back to MORSE? - T'would save a LOT of unnecessary chatter.........
AND....Yer 2 cents / litre on fuel was PRECISELY what funded that nasty ole FLIGHT SERVICE thingy....you know, the one you got rid of because you reckoned 'we' cost too much.
It was all about the MONEY..
It was ALWAYS about the MONEY!.
NOW you want a 2 cent levy on fuel to fund WHAT??
Tell 'im 'es dreamin'......
Cheeerrrsss.... and tks again for the...........
I've told ya a MILLION times NOT to exxagerate so much......
I reckon you would have NOT been flying 'in the 50's'...except in your dreams....just like 'yours truly'.
I have NO 'ordinary' idea of wot 'they' did in the 50's, and I suspect, neither does yerself - March '44 would have been a 'good year' for you??
Perhaps we should all go back to MORSE? - T'would save a LOT of unnecessary chatter.........
AND....Yer 2 cents / litre on fuel was PRECISELY what funded that nasty ole FLIGHT SERVICE thingy....you know, the one you got rid of because you reckoned 'we' cost too much.
It was all about the MONEY..
It was ALWAYS about the MONEY!.
NOW you want a 2 cent levy on fuel to fund WHAT??
Tell 'im 'es dreamin'......
Cheeerrrsss.... and tks again for the...........
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We're ATSOs now, providing services in whichever class of airspace we work.
I suspect the urge to 'control' will be difficult to overcome?
Griffo. I loved Flight Service. Especially Dubbo FS when they would call me a taxi and put in my flight plan.
It was those Airlines who were the problem. They reckoned that GA should pay most of the FS cost because GA got most of the service.
I could see we were not going to have a GA industry if that happened! But we hardly have a GA industry anyway so we may have well kept FS.
But remember the big redundo!
It was those Airlines who were the problem. They reckoned that GA should pay most of the FS cost because GA got most of the service.
I could see we were not going to have a GA industry if that happened! But we hardly have a GA industry anyway so we may have well kept FS.
But remember the big redundo!
We've been doing so for nearly 25 years - FS literally went from being done by FSOs to being done by ATCs overnight. The large majority of en-route and TMA controllers provide services in class G every day.
And, yes, I understood your point regarding the WX in AUS being better than the WX IN USA.
Hey Dick,
I do.....Every Day.......And...... I secretly 'lurve ya' for it...........
(But, I would NEVER NEVER NEVER admit it publicly...................)
BUT......by those days most, or if not ALL of those 'nasty' big aeroplanes - 'AIRLINES' types were 'TURBOS / JETS' and burned AVTUR...??.
As far as I am / was aware, the 2c levy for FS was based on AVGAS.....so the AIRLINES got us for FREE...??
Please correct me if I'm wrong.....
I do.....Every Day.......And...... I secretly 'lurve ya' for it...........
(But, I would NEVER NEVER NEVER admit it publicly...................)
BUT......by those days most, or if not ALL of those 'nasty' big aeroplanes - 'AIRLINES' types were 'TURBOS / JETS' and burned AVTUR...??.
As far as I am / was aware, the 2c levy for FS was based on AVGAS.....so the AIRLINES got us for FREE...??
Please correct me if I'm wrong.....
I think an excise was/is imposed on both Avgas and Jet A1 consumed in Australia. Hence, Jet A1 loaded onto an aircraft about to depart on an international flight was/is not subject to excise. But that's just a cloudy memory. Maybe others with more recent knowledge will correct me if I'm wrong.
There was a bunch of complexity around 'past period franchise fees' charged by states for fuel, tobacco etc, but I don't know whether that applied to Avgas and Jet A1 supplied in a state and, in any event, the High Court in the late 90s finally declared them to be unconstitutional duties of excise because only the Commonwealth has power to charge excise (whereupon the Commonwealth said "thank you very much", imposed its excise instead and pocketed the extra billions, thus contributing further to the vertical fiscal imbalance).
There was a bunch of complexity around 'past period franchise fees' charged by states for fuel, tobacco etc, but I don't know whether that applied to Avgas and Jet A1 supplied in a state and, in any event, the High Court in the late 90s finally declared them to be unconstitutional duties of excise because only the Commonwealth has power to charge excise (whereupon the Commonwealth said "thank you very much", imposed its excise instead and pocketed the extra billions, thus contributing further to the vertical fiscal imbalance).
Originally Posted by Missy
If they're not in IMC then surely they are visual are then able to self separate.
Especially Dubbo FS when they would ........ put in my flight plan.
That loss of an education source is incalculable. Now students and pilots either have to muddle through themselves or ask their instructor, who sadly more often than not these days might not know much more than they.
And yes, instructors too used to come in to ask questions and to clarify things.
If it stops this happening, I’m all for it !!