Birdsville races. No Underwing Camping
It's still sex in a canoe.
The April minuteds (unconfirmed) of the Diamantina Council show that Birdsville Hotel manager attended the meeting (by phone) and raised the matter.
Attendance: 11:20am Ben Fullagar, Birdsville Hotel Manager, entered the meeting (via telephone) to address Council on the following issues:
Hotel licenced area extension into Burt street during Big Red Bash to assist us with our Covid Capacity restrictions and ensuring we can legally have a capacity that provides a service to the patrons visiting town.
Hotel Licenced area extension into Burt street during Birdsville Races to assist us with our Covid Capacity restrictions and ensuring we can legally have a capacity that provides a service to the patrons visiting town.
Birdsville races airside underwing camping. Solution based discussion to work out a way forward with this collectively as a group.
12:22pm Ben Fullagar, Birdsville Hotel Manager, left the meeting.
I can't see where the ban on underwing camping has been revoked.
Attendance: 11:20am Ben Fullagar, Birdsville Hotel Manager, entered the meeting (via telephone) to address Council on the following issues:
Hotel licenced area extension into Burt street during Big Red Bash to assist us with our Covid Capacity restrictions and ensuring we can legally have a capacity that provides a service to the patrons visiting town.
Hotel Licenced area extension into Burt street during Birdsville Races to assist us with our Covid Capacity restrictions and ensuring we can legally have a capacity that provides a service to the patrons visiting town.
Birdsville races airside underwing camping. Solution based discussion to work out a way forward with this collectively as a group.
12:22pm Ben Fullagar, Birdsville Hotel Manager, left the meeting.
I can't see where the ban on underwing camping has been revoked.
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It strikes me as discrimination that even if there is no underwing camping allowed there will still be a fee levied on aircraft and the people on board visiting the races by air.
I have to ask the question is the council going to set up road blocks and charge all motoring visitors a fee to enter Birdsville for the race weekend?
If there is concern by the council about security and rubbish on the airport as the reason for no underwing camping but still a fee for airborne visitors, then there should be a fee charged and paid for by all the motoring visitors descending on Birdsville for that weekend.
History would record from past Birdsville race gatherings that the influx of motoring visitors would leave more rubbish and be a greater security concern than any airborne visitors. .
There is no valid reason to have one rule for one and a different rule for others.
I have to ask the question is the council going to set up road blocks and charge all motoring visitors a fee to enter Birdsville for the race weekend?
If there is concern by the council about security and rubbish on the airport as the reason for no underwing camping but still a fee for airborne visitors, then there should be a fee charged and paid for by all the motoring visitors descending on Birdsville for that weekend.
History would record from past Birdsville race gatherings that the influx of motoring visitors would leave more rubbish and be a greater security concern than any airborne visitors. .
There is no valid reason to have one rule for one and a different rule for others.
My big memory .. from about a 100 years ago was trying to cancel SAR on HF somewhere in the NT. ( so long ago,I can’t remember where I was.) However I do remember I cancelled SAR through a station in Alaska on ( I think) 6655, and he assured me he would contact Sydney to let them know I was on the ground!!!
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Given no posts here since 8 May I assume there is no more news and the ban stays. I'm curious who many people here have cancelled their plans to go because of the ban? (Assuming that it goes ahead and the borders are open.)
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There are two issues here.
One is that there has been no change of mind re underwing camping. I am sure that at least one aircraft will fly in and the crew start to set up camp under the wing only to find a van with a flashing light telling them to move on.
The second is that the Birdsville Races have gone from a friendly hail-fellow-well-met event to a slick commercialised event driven by one word, MONEY. .
There was a sale of some 4,000 tickets on May 26 at 9 am. Apparently the first 1,000 were sold in 15 minutes. The rest soon after.
There was a wait list to get onto but here we are at 24 July and no word or advice that extra tickets are to be sold. If they are it may well be too late to buy some and make arrangements to get to the event. There is a Rent-a-Tent city but again at extra cost and that is if any tents are still available.
Queensland and NSW and Vic and SA all have restrictions in place and sure they may be lifted but when? Given that lockdowns happen overnight it could well be that between now and the races there will be lockdowns lifted and even applied again. I would not want to risk going to the races only to find that while I was enroute a lockdown had been brought in that said I could not get back home short of an expensive quarantine stay at my expense.
Given that Australians at large could not go overseas in 2020 and again in 2021 travel companies hooked on to the Birdsville Races as an event to take tourists to, of course at a fee. I for one was not aware of the ticket sales coming up and missed out.
Having a pre-bought ticket is the only way to get into the races this year. There will be a few punters who will roll up in ignorance of this and front up at the gate waving folding money only to be told 'Sorry, Pre-paid tickets only'. When I last looked there were some eight travel companies involved saying travel with us to get to and into the event. Needless to say those travel companies have bulk tickets bought for their 'customers'. Disappointing for the station people from 1000 km around who do not sit on a PC all day to buy tickets but would look at the race being the one event of the year that they enjoyed going to.
There are other nearby race events before and after the Birdsville event. Those that missed out on Birdsville race tickets should save their money and go to those other nearby races. Accommodation will be the big issue with those other places.
I have been to the races before and looked at it as being a fun event to go to and enjoy the companionship of fellow Australians visiting the races and to have a good time. It was not just the races but being in the atmosphere of attending the event. It would appear that has gone from this year and probably forever as the travel companies now have their hooks into it.
Commercialisation and Money. Two things that have destroyed the Birdsville races, at least for Joe Citizen.
Do not believe that the Covid 19 virus is the sole reason to selling limited tickets on-line. Nor the aspect of no underwing camping. Money is the driving factor.
One is that there has been no change of mind re underwing camping. I am sure that at least one aircraft will fly in and the crew start to set up camp under the wing only to find a van with a flashing light telling them to move on.
The second is that the Birdsville Races have gone from a friendly hail-fellow-well-met event to a slick commercialised event driven by one word, MONEY. .
There was a sale of some 4,000 tickets on May 26 at 9 am. Apparently the first 1,000 were sold in 15 minutes. The rest soon after.
There was a wait list to get onto but here we are at 24 July and no word or advice that extra tickets are to be sold. If they are it may well be too late to buy some and make arrangements to get to the event. There is a Rent-a-Tent city but again at extra cost and that is if any tents are still available.
Queensland and NSW and Vic and SA all have restrictions in place and sure they may be lifted but when? Given that lockdowns happen overnight it could well be that between now and the races there will be lockdowns lifted and even applied again. I would not want to risk going to the races only to find that while I was enroute a lockdown had been brought in that said I could not get back home short of an expensive quarantine stay at my expense.
Given that Australians at large could not go overseas in 2020 and again in 2021 travel companies hooked on to the Birdsville Races as an event to take tourists to, of course at a fee. I for one was not aware of the ticket sales coming up and missed out.
Having a pre-bought ticket is the only way to get into the races this year. There will be a few punters who will roll up in ignorance of this and front up at the gate waving folding money only to be told 'Sorry, Pre-paid tickets only'. When I last looked there were some eight travel companies involved saying travel with us to get to and into the event. Needless to say those travel companies have bulk tickets bought for their 'customers'. Disappointing for the station people from 1000 km around who do not sit on a PC all day to buy tickets but would look at the race being the one event of the year that they enjoyed going to.
There are other nearby race events before and after the Birdsville event. Those that missed out on Birdsville race tickets should save their money and go to those other nearby races. Accommodation will be the big issue with those other places.
I have been to the races before and looked at it as being a fun event to go to and enjoy the companionship of fellow Australians visiting the races and to have a good time. It was not just the races but being in the atmosphere of attending the event. It would appear that has gone from this year and probably forever as the travel companies now have their hooks into it.
Commercialisation and Money. Two things that have destroyed the Birdsville races, at least for Joe Citizen.
Do not believe that the Covid 19 virus is the sole reason to selling limited tickets on-line. Nor the aspect of no underwing camping. Money is the driving factor.
I have just recently 'purchased' free on-line tickets for a free event - why? A very effective way of ensuring that unmanageable numbers don't turn up I would guess!
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There are two issues here.
One is that there has been no change of mind re underwing camping. I am sure that at least one aircraft will fly in and the crew start to set up camp under the wing only to find a van with a flashing light telling them to move on.
The second is that the Birdsville Races have gone from a friendly hail-fellow-well-met event to a slick commercialised event driven by one word, MONEY. .
There was a sale of some 4,000 tickets on May 26 at 9 am. Apparently the first 1,000 were sold in 15 minutes. The rest soon after.
There was a wait list to get onto but here we are at 24 July and no word or advice that extra tickets are to be sold. If they are it may well be too late to buy some and make arrangements to get to the event. There is a Rent-a-Tent city but again at extra cost and that is if any tents are still available.
Queensland and NSW and Vic and SA all have restrictions in place and sure they may be lifted but when? Given that lockdowns happen overnight it could well be that between now and the races there will be lockdowns lifted and even applied again. I would not want to risk going to the races only to find that while I was enroute a lockdown had been brought in that said I could not get back home short of an expensive quarantine stay at my expense.
Given that Australians at large could not go overseas in 2020 and again in 2021 travel companies hooked on to the Birdsville Races as an event to take tourists to, of course at a fee. I for one was not aware of the ticket sales coming up and missed out.
Having a pre-bought ticket is the only way to get into the races this year. There will be a few punters who will roll up in ignorance of this and front up at the gate waving folding money only to be told 'Sorry, Pre-paid tickets only'. When I last looked there were some eight travel companies involved saying travel with us to get to and into the event. Needless to say those travel companies have bulk tickets bought for their 'customers'. Disappointing for the station people from 1000 km around who do not sit on a PC all day to buy tickets but would look at the race being the one event of the year that they enjoyed going to.
There are other nearby race events before and after the Birdsville event. Those that missed out on Birdsville race tickets should save their money and go to those other nearby races. Accommodation will be the big issue with those other places.
I have been to the races before and looked at it as being a fun event to go to and enjoy the companionship of fellow Australians visiting the races and to have a good time. It was not just the races but being in the atmosphere of attending the event. It would appear that has gone from this year and probably forever as the travel companies now have their hooks into it.
Commercialisation and Money. Two things that have destroyed the Birdsville races, at least for Joe Citizen.
Do not believe that the Covid 19 virus is the sole reason to selling limited tickets on-line. Nor the aspect of no underwing camping. Money is the driving factor.
One is that there has been no change of mind re underwing camping. I am sure that at least one aircraft will fly in and the crew start to set up camp under the wing only to find a van with a flashing light telling them to move on.
The second is that the Birdsville Races have gone from a friendly hail-fellow-well-met event to a slick commercialised event driven by one word, MONEY. .
There was a sale of some 4,000 tickets on May 26 at 9 am. Apparently the first 1,000 were sold in 15 minutes. The rest soon after.
There was a wait list to get onto but here we are at 24 July and no word or advice that extra tickets are to be sold. If they are it may well be too late to buy some and make arrangements to get to the event. There is a Rent-a-Tent city but again at extra cost and that is if any tents are still available.
Queensland and NSW and Vic and SA all have restrictions in place and sure they may be lifted but when? Given that lockdowns happen overnight it could well be that between now and the races there will be lockdowns lifted and even applied again. I would not want to risk going to the races only to find that while I was enroute a lockdown had been brought in that said I could not get back home short of an expensive quarantine stay at my expense.
Given that Australians at large could not go overseas in 2020 and again in 2021 travel companies hooked on to the Birdsville Races as an event to take tourists to, of course at a fee. I for one was not aware of the ticket sales coming up and missed out.
Having a pre-bought ticket is the only way to get into the races this year. There will be a few punters who will roll up in ignorance of this and front up at the gate waving folding money only to be told 'Sorry, Pre-paid tickets only'. When I last looked there were some eight travel companies involved saying travel with us to get to and into the event. Needless to say those travel companies have bulk tickets bought for their 'customers'. Disappointing for the station people from 1000 km around who do not sit on a PC all day to buy tickets but would look at the race being the one event of the year that they enjoyed going to.
There are other nearby race events before and after the Birdsville event. Those that missed out on Birdsville race tickets should save their money and go to those other nearby races. Accommodation will be the big issue with those other places.
I have been to the races before and looked at it as being a fun event to go to and enjoy the companionship of fellow Australians visiting the races and to have a good time. It was not just the races but being in the atmosphere of attending the event. It would appear that has gone from this year and probably forever as the travel companies now have their hooks into it.
Commercialisation and Money. Two things that have destroyed the Birdsville races, at least for Joe Citizen.
Do not believe that the Covid 19 virus is the sole reason to selling limited tickets on-line. Nor the aspect of no underwing camping. Money is the driving factor.
RWY16 well said, couldn't agree more, the event is stuffed compared to the good old days -( No caged fences, no ludicrous ASIC, no curb & channeling and beer cans a foot deep around the pub & cold drunks still buried in cans at sunrise-)
The fun in the 80's will never be seen again -(
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Given that Australians at large could not go overseas in 2020 and again in 2021 travel companies hooked on to the Birdsville Races as an event to take tourists to, of course at a fee.
I'm sure things will return to normal when the "Hiltons without the blow flies" open up again.
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At least you can rent a tent from them instead of taking your own :-(
Birdsville Races 2021 - Rent a Tent
Birdsville Races 2021 - Rent a Tent
AT what cost though? Phuck me!
1 x 4 man tent:$899
4 x camp chairs @ $20 ea: 80
4 x sleeping bag & pillows @ $40 ea: $160
2 x LED Lanterns @ $10ea: $20
1 x table @ $30 ea: $30
1 x esky @ $40ea: $40
$1,229 in camping 'supplies' for stuff people would usually bring themselves and throw under the wing of their 182.
They can stick that fair up their asre. If I can't camp under the wing, I am not going to pay for the...uhhh...."privilege" of camping in town with a bunch on non-aviation yobbos.
1 x 4 man tent:$899
4 x camp chairs @ $20 ea: 80
4 x sleeping bag & pillows @ $40 ea: $160
2 x LED Lanterns @ $10ea: $20
1 x table @ $30 ea: $30
1 x esky @ $40ea: $40
$1,229 in camping 'supplies' for stuff people would usually bring themselves and throw under the wing of their 182.
They can stick that fair up their asre. If I can't camp under the wing, I am not going to pay for the...uhhh...."privilege" of camping in town with a bunch on non-aviation yobbos.
