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Old 31st Oct 2020, 08:02
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METAR abbreviation "DL" - I should know this but cannot find it

Embarrassed to say but with the new ICAO METAR/SPECI stuff what does DL stand for?

Cannot seem to find a reference to it - I must have missed something.

eg METAR YSBK 310630Z AUTO 15010KT 9999 // SCT074 OVC085 17/14 Q1009
RMK RF00.6/001.6 DL-N/DL-E/DL-SE/DL-NW

Looks like there is DL in the North, East, SE and NW but what is DL? (I am assuming this came with the new ICAO stuff mentioned in AIC H60/20)
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 08:07
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DL = Distant Lightning according to the latest AIP.
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Distant Lightning.
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cheers - should have thought to look in next AIP!
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A new level of the children of the magenta...

Asking PPRuNe before you read the manuals!
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Why do we still have these abbreviations?
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Originally Posted by SDN Superstar View Post
A new level of the children of the magenta...

Asking PPRuNe before you read the manuals!
Indeed! Can you imagine, back in the days before the internet, that somebody would ask their colleagues before reading the manual!

Everyone knows that studying manual in solitude is the only way to perfection!
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I didnít know what I meant the first time I saw it either.

The BoM knowledge centre page is a simple format to find this kind of stuff too:

Knowledge Centre
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Originally Posted by SDN Superstar View Post
A new level of the children of the magenta...

Asking PPRuNe before you read the manuals!
A new level of CRM for pre magenta Sky Gods
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Originally Posted by derjodel View Post
Indeed! Can you imagine, back in the days before the internet, that somebody would ask their colleagues before reading the manual!

Everyone knows that studying manual in solitude is the only way to perfection!
ahaha, apply cold water to burn
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Originally Posted by SDN Superstar View Post
A new level of the children of the magenta...

Asking PPRuNe before you read the manuals!
I donít see the issue. Sometimes you can not find the information in the manual that easily and itís faster to get the answer here. Never heard of ďDLĒ in a Metar before. So thanks for the thread starter for asking.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 15:21
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I donít see the issue.
There isn't one. To ask if you have any doubt is not a sin, the fact you've queried amongst peers should be lauded if you are having trouble finding the meaning or understanding of something. To quote the person who criticised this - "Itís pretty sad to see how quickly pilots turn on each other." - perhaps your comment in July might be worth re-visiting.
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Originally Posted by SDN Superstar View Post
A new level of the children of the magenta...

Asking PPRuNe before you read the manuals!
Of course, why would you ask to your colleagues and show that you don't know something instead of shutting your mouth and act as if you know it? People like you are the reason CRM is an actual and very important thing in an airline. In aviation terms, you're the accident we all learn about.
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Pity this stuff isn't in plane English.....
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 17:26
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No such thing as a stupid question!

For some of us it's easier to learn from a human than from a dry book written in such a manner it's difficult to take the information on!
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Well the best thing about asking on a forum is that we all get to know what DL stands for 😄👍
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nah I probably deserved the ribbing. I saw it, assumed it was part of the new TAF3/METAR stuff that is being rolled out. Should've looked in the AIP first.
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Originally Posted by WhatShortage View Post
Of course, why would you ask to your colleagues and show that you don't know something instead of shutting your mouth and act as if you know it? People like you are the reason CRM is an actual and very important thing in an airline. In aviation terms, you're the accident we all learn about.
20 years in and I wholeheartedly agree. There was never a worse person to sit next to, than someone who made out they knew everything. To this day, I donít and Iím not afraid to ask a colleague for a steer if needs be.
I see no harm in the OP asking the question here, we all learn something and Iíd bet Iím not the only one who also didnít know the answer!
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Pity this stuff isn't in plane English.....
Oh the irony.
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I thought DL meant inadvertant taxiway landing
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