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Old 4th Jun 2020, 00:09
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Supporting a Royal Commission into aviation

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Hear hear, if there was a like button I would press it!
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Keep going Dick.
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Why doesn't DSV create its own doco on the current state of aviation? It would get more exposure than a Royal Commission.
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whilst I would support a RC into aviation, I don't believe it will happen until there is a accident with a large loss of life - sadly then the horse will have bolted. The CBR pollies will not touch aviation without what they think is a sound reason/s as the heads of both CASA, ASA and DoT say it is all ok....
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Prior thread, a comment.re RC
How can we help to bring this about. I'd be happy to contribute to a full page statement in the Oz ..a la Angel Flight . And anything else
The ****ty nappies in this business need to be hung out on the public line..
Trouble is 99.8% of Politicans are disinterested in the subject. Try writing a few letters, the lack of response is appalling. Even from the PM's office. Nix..which says it all.
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Trouble is 99.8% of Politicans are disinterested in the subject.
As are the same percentage of the public. There was no public outcry after any of the other commissions and enquiries. What was the number of Royal Commissions and Enquiries into bushfires since 1939, I think it was around 50. They all reached similar conclusions but every generation seems surprised by the outcome of hot summers, drought and dry timber.
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Don’t worry about the Pandemic
The millions out of work
The 30 year plus national debt
The thousand odd other more important things. Terrorism, health care, political corruption, race relations , China relations....

Lets have a royal commission into Aviation and doing it the American way so someone can get clearance coastal through Willy Town.
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Ozbiggles, not just for a clearance through Willy. That is just a symptom. We need a royal commission to get sensible regs that promote investment in aviation. That generates jobs in aviation and the resulting positive gdp growth helps pay off the debt. Jobs, investment, growth - not possible without removing the dead hand of over regulation.
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As are the same percentage of the public. There was no public outcry after any of the other commissions and enquiries. What was the number of Royal Commissions and Enquiries into bushfires since 1939, I think it was around 50. They all reached similar conclusions but every generation seems surprised by the outcome of hot summers, drought and dry timber.
I think you make a good point, LL.

Anything substantial changed after the banking RC? Nope. The ongoing aged care RC? Nope.
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Don’t worry about the Pandemic
The millions out of work
The 30 year plus national debt
The thousand odd other more important things. Terrorism, health care, political corruption, race relations , China relations....
Lets have a royal commission into Aviation and doing it the American way so someone can get clearance coastal through Willy Town.
Bit like all the fireworks on New Years Eve whingers. Yeah, let's stop everything. I reckon we should perform some sort of re-education where you are only allowed to think about corona 16 hours a day, maybe 17 hours if you can do with 7 hours sleep a night.

Oops, update, corona is no longer news. A new crisis and disaster has hit front and centre.
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Unfortunately for the aviation industry in this country, the AV-Disasters, CAsA, AsA are front and centre
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Australia, the land of Royal Commisions where everyone feels warm & fuzzy after the findings then it's back to business with corruption & lathargic behaviour by our regulators! !
We truly are a 3rd world nation with a 1st world facade!
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Corona is no longer news? Has anybody told the entire aviation industry?
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Corona is no longer news?
It hasn't been mentioned once in the media I read in the last week.

(I don't read hysterical media like fox, anything murdoch, left/right wing trash. doesn't leave a lot, but still nothing).
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Hi Dick,

How about MH370 that killed hundreds in uncontrolled and remote airspace? Would it fall into the same category?
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No. I don’t believe it is in the same category as the accidents I have mentioned.
In the ones I have covered the pilots were probably attempting to follow the rules.
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Hear hear, if there was a like button I would press it!

Keep going Dick.
Concur with the above. However, who will determine the terms of reference?
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.....and Dick does not even mention the near misses. See the MCY incident A320 and Aero Commander 0.7NM and 265 feet apart in Class G.
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No point. To paraphrase Sir Humphrey Appleby, you never hold a Royal Commission unless you have already arranged for it to provide the verdict you want.
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