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Old 22nd May 2020, 11:59
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Buying a New Military Jet v Ex Military Jet Warbird

Purely a pie in the sky argument but curiosity got the better of me.

Below is 2 jet warbirds for sale. But what if you wanted a new build. Taiwan has a nifty little fighter/trainer. There is a 2 seat version without a classified radar or gun. The engines are civilian engines with afterburners.

Is there a clause that says "Military" hardware cannot be sold new to civilians? Would make a great airshow aircraft.

Assumption that $ are unlimited and they buyer has the technical support crew, training, facility etc etc etc that's required to operate it.

https://www.controller.com/listings/...douglas-f4h-1f

https://www.controller.com/listings/...ea-harrier-fa2


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Old 22nd May 2020, 13:23
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Is the name of the aircraft a joke? I like it, though.
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Airworthy Harriers for sale. Art Nalls must be retiring.
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There was a TV programme in the UK earlier this year where a bloke ran into a dead-end restoring an old L-39 (think it was getting hold of ejection seat cartridges) so ended up buying a new one from the factory
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Old 23rd May 2020, 01:39
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Airworthy Harriers for sale. Art Nalls must be retiring.
A sea harrier is being restored to airworthy condition in Ballarat, Vic. They’re also restoring a second harrier (T4) to ground running condition.

https://www.avtolt.com/harrier/
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The single seat version will be called F-CK-ME
The twin seat version will be renamed F-CK-U2

A used Northrop F-5 would be blast. The US is more relaxed with pivate ownership which include F-16s and even a pair of SU-27s.
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Must say the re engined, new avionics, completely overhauled L39s do look good!
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I’d love to own a Jet Provost or Strikemaster. A man can dream.
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Aero have a new generation L-39 in testing at the moment; almost seems like there would be a market for a purely civilian version without the usual military gear given how popular they are in the warbird scene. Although I guess the flipside to that is that they are very cheap to buy used. (ongoing running costs obviously a different story!) There are a couple of companies in the US that build military style two seat turboprops or jets purely for civilian ownership but they are very small volume or kitset manufacturers.
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Unfortunately the expense of building new jets in incredibly higher than buying an unwanted ex-military trainer.
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I’d love to own a Jet Provost or Strikemaster. A man can dream.
For me, an F104 Starfighter.

Being capable of flying it would be another matter though.
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Pinky...Read the Warbird Digest article re flying the F 104. Underpants changing stuff, a final glide from 20K ft Hows yr ticker box and blood pressure ? Be supremely exiting...and frightering. Or terrifying !!
Id go for a Jet Provost /'Bluntie' And I rather like the Canadair C115 jet trainer, as in Snowbirds team.
Sadly they busted one just recently. Pity they didnt pop out at the top of the climb
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As far as the F-104 goes this must take the award for the ballsiest manouevre completed in the ballsiest aeroplane:
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The early downward firing ejection seat in the 104 set a bad habit of rolling inverted then ejecting.
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Originally Posted by NZFlyingKiwi
As far as the F-104 goes this must take the award for the ballsiest manouevre completed in the ballsiest aeroplane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFk_9vLjNQ
Like Col Pays test fly of his Spitfire
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Stumbled across this link
How I Spent My Winter Vacation
500 kmph to 1000 kmph in five seconds at treetop level

Cheaper than ownership, but interesting what he says at the end.
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