AFAP would not support DS legislative change proposal
The position paper makes sense to me, including the Annexure 2 section 9a amendment. The original letter also makes perfect sense to me. Afap support the intent, not the specific wording.
Seems a lot like the usual suspects attempting to sink the boot into the afap.
j3
Seems a lot like the usual suspects attempting to sink the boot into the afap.
j3
I’ve read your position paper and you can stick it up your backside.
WTF IS; “take into account that civil aviation is a system of safety.”??
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This is gobbledygook for “we know the regulation seems stupid, but it’s part of a larger system”.
”System” is a nominative word like “safety”. One could say that the Calabrian mafia are a “system”. just like bikie gangs.
Do you #@#$ing so called professional pilots understand what you are talking about? If you did, you might even understand that “system thinking” in cybernetic terms, is about inputs and outputs. By any stretch of the imagination you think CASA will change as a result?
Bikies, the mafia, colombian drug cartels and the new york mobs are all system players, since when does calling it a system of air safety imply that it is efficient, just or sustainable?
I could make another reference to a well known system player, but that would put me in breach of Godwin’s law.
Seriously, you AFAP guys are easy meat. I have a bridge to sell you.
P.S. Piper cub, it makes sense to you because nominative words like “system”, “safety”, “justice”, “fairness”, etc. have no hard and fast concrete meaning. They are concepts that exist in the mind of the reader and nowhere else. Of course they make sense to you. They exist in your mind only. Other people may have an equally valid but totall different concept of what is systemic, safe, just or fair. Politicians use nominative because it leaves them free (not you) to define what they mean.
Leaving CASA to determine what “safety system” means as the AFAP proposes, is like asking a heroine dealer to define the term “commercial quantity” of that drug.
WTF IS; “take into account that civil aviation is a system of safety.”??
’
This is gobbledygook for “we know the regulation seems stupid, but it’s part of a larger system”.
”System” is a nominative word like “safety”. One could say that the Calabrian mafia are a “system”. just like bikie gangs.
Do you #@#$ing so called professional pilots understand what you are talking about? If you did, you might even understand that “system thinking” in cybernetic terms, is about inputs and outputs. By any stretch of the imagination you think CASA will change as a result?
Bikies, the mafia, colombian drug cartels and the new york mobs are all system players, since when does calling it a system of air safety imply that it is efficient, just or sustainable?
I could make another reference to a well known system player, but that would put me in breach of Godwin’s law.
Seriously, you AFAP guys are easy meat. I have a bridge to sell you.
P.S. Piper cub, it makes sense to you because nominative words like “system”, “safety”, “justice”, “fairness”, etc. have no hard and fast concrete meaning. They are concepts that exist in the mind of the reader and nowhere else. Of course they make sense to you. They exist in your mind only. Other people may have an equally valid but totall different concept of what is systemic, safe, just or fair. Politicians use nominative because it leaves them free (not you) to define what they mean.
Leaving CASA to determine what “safety system” means as the AFAP proposes, is like asking a heroine dealer to define the term “commercial quantity” of that drug.
Nurse! NURSE!
Nurse indeed. Ever see Louise Fletcher as Nurse Ratched?
I feel like the hero in “one flew over the Cuckoos nest” - Randle McMurphy is the only character who can see the insanity of the administration of the insane asylum in which he is an inmate.
”Upon arriving at the hospital, he finds the ward run by nurse Mildred Ratched, a cold, passive-aggressive tyrant who uses her rules and authority to intimidate her charges into a restrictive, joyless existence.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Fl...27s_Nest_(film)
Some of you poor bastards are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
I feel like the hero in “one flew over the Cuckoos nest” - Randle McMurphy is the only character who can see the insanity of the administration of the insane asylum in which he is an inmate.
”Upon arriving at the hospital, he finds the ward run by nurse Mildred Ratched, a cold, passive-aggressive tyrant who uses her rules and authority to intimidate her charges into a restrictive, joyless existence.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Fl...27s_Nest_(film)
Some of you poor bastards are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
You're so right Sunfish, it's everyone else that's wrong. The diatribe of faux intellectualism and foul language won me over.
Not to mention the crafty mention of Godwins law, well done you on the sneaky non mention of Nazis. Just sublime. Or is sublime all in my head? Are we all just waiting to be soylent green? Should I take the blue pill and remain ignorant or take the red and become as woke as you are? Decisions, decisions.
You keep doing you mate, never change, but it sounds like you need a holiday. I hear the dalmatian coast is a great sailing destination...
j3
Not to mention the crafty mention of Godwins law, well done you on the sneaky non mention of Nazis. Just sublime. Or is sublime all in my head? Are we all just waiting to be soylent green? Should I take the blue pill and remain ignorant or take the red and become as woke as you are? Decisions, decisions.
You keep doing you mate, never change, but it sounds like you need a holiday. I hear the dalmatian coast is a great sailing destination...
j3
J3cub, define what “take into account that civil aviation is a system of safety.” actually means.
When you have completed that simple task define the word “safety” in an aviation context actually means in practice.
Your replies will no doubt be more nominative words that are meaningless.
I find it amazing that people who are supposed to be professional masters of the hard and brutal physical laws of flight should fall for professionally bottled snake oil like the AFAP position paper.’’
To put that another way, What would you say if you got into an aircraft and the POH said “advance the throttles until the engines feel right and accelerate smoothly until the aircraft feels like it might want to rotate, then climb at a comfortable rate until you are at a sufficient altitude. When you think you might be near your destination, descend at a rate that feels good to you to a height that looks Ok then descend at a comfortable speed until you think you might be near the runway.” You have 300 pax on board.
That is the EXACT analogue to what you are allowing the regulator to do.
When you have completed that simple task define the word “safety” in an aviation context actually means in practice.
Your replies will no doubt be more nominative words that are meaningless.
I find it amazing that people who are supposed to be professional masters of the hard and brutal physical laws of flight should fall for professionally bottled snake oil like the AFAP position paper.’’
To put that another way, What would you say if you got into an aircraft and the POH said “advance the throttles until the engines feel right and accelerate smoothly until the aircraft feels like it might want to rotate, then climb at a comfortable rate until you are at a sufficient altitude. When you think you might be near your destination, descend at a rate that feels good to you to a height that looks Ok then descend at a comfortable speed until you think you might be near the runway.” You have 300 pax on board.
That is the EXACT analogue to what you are allowing the regulator to do.
