One down at Mareeba
"Police said they would investigate reports from witnesses who heard a strange sound from the engine, described by one person as "backfiring".
DF.
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When the aircraft turned away from me, ...it was then a glider.
And all glider pilots had banged into their noggins when learning, ...when slow, stuff the nose down BEFORE you make the turn.
Maybe what I saw wasnt a turn at all. The right wing lost it....and it was all downhill from there. Vale ! them 2
And there was space ahead for a crash landing.
And all glider pilots had banged into their noggins when learning, ...when slow, stuff the nose down BEFORE you make the turn.
Maybe what I saw wasnt a turn at all. The right wing lost it....and it was all downhill from there. Vale ! them 2
And there was space ahead for a crash landing.
Ozrunways has a camera right in the location it went down, it would probably have the whole circuit on camera. Hopefully they record the footage somewhere
They aren’t stored by the EFB’s. You’d have to get hold of Skycam and they are only stills, so no video.
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Bit of a suposition mark on that frame.! I could modify that if I knew how. Certainly didnt do a climbing turn to that height.
Bring everything down to the top of the V and move it back down the runway some 200 mtrs... to the east.
.Thus take off and turn out of that frame anyhow.
Bring everything down to the top of the V and move it back down the runway some 200 mtrs... to the east.
.Thus take off and turn out of that frame anyhow.
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I also met Scotty a few years ago on Horn Island, absolute true gentleman and a great bloke. My heart goes out to the families and friends close to Scotty and the other pilot who was with him.
The other pilot who was with Scotty was also a very experienced pilot.
Hopefully the ATSB investigation will reveal exactly what happened in order for all of us to learn from this tragic event.
RIP comrades and I will certainly raise a few XXXX’s tonight in memory of you both.
The other pilot who was with Scotty was also a very experienced pilot.
Hopefully the ATSB investigation will reveal exactly what happened in order for all of us to learn from this tragic event.
RIP comrades and I will certainly raise a few XXXX’s tonight in memory of you both.
Prelim report not giving much away. Going off eyewitness reports.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2019-072/
I find this a bit strange. 28 Takeoff and going towards the training area, is a upwind departure with a left turn toward the training area a few miles after takeoff. Why conduct a low level right hand turn? I mean there is power lines on crosswind. I don't really see any real need for a field departure off the crosswind circuit with a abundance of hazards vs a straight out departure with little in the way off hazards (well no tall power towers anyway). It appears they did this again on the touch and go fatal circuit. A low level right hand turn will line you up with that road where they ended up, if under twin power.
How often is 28 used? Every time I pass overhead inbound to Cairns on a heavy, it is always 10. Which is why we listen in as the steps are fairly close.
https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2019-072/
I find this a bit strange. 28 Takeoff and going towards the training area, is a upwind departure with a left turn toward the training area a few miles after takeoff. Why conduct a low level right hand turn? I mean there is power lines on crosswind. I don't really see any real need for a field departure off the crosswind circuit with a abundance of hazards vs a straight out departure with little in the way off hazards (well no tall power towers anyway). It appears they did this again on the touch and go fatal circuit. A low level right hand turn will line you up with that road where they ended up, if under twin power.
How often is 28 used? Every time I pass overhead inbound to Cairns on a heavy, it is always 10. Which is why we listen in as the steps are fairly close.
Once airborne, the pilot broadcast that they were ‘making a low-level right-hand turn and then climbing up to not above 4,500 [feet] for the south-west training area.’
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All very interesting, But who was flying the aeroplane and who was attending to "the problem/s" which it obviously had.
One or the other or both ... not payng attention to the airspeed.. and the rest is very sad history..
That two very experience twin pilots could do arrive at such a bum result to it all confounds me..
Still on the runway after 16oo ft behind and only 200yds left, why not chop the power and jump on the brakes.
So the arrestor barrier of a fence before the road bangs up the aircraft,,, so what.?
Can replace an aircraft with another (better) one, but not people.
One or the other or both ... not payng attention to the airspeed.. and the rest is very sad history..
That two very experience twin pilots could do arrive at such a bum result to it all confounds me..
Still on the runway after 16oo ft behind and only 200yds left, why not chop the power and jump on the brakes.
So the arrestor barrier of a fence before the road bangs up the aircraft,,, so what.?
Can replace an aircraft with another (better) one, but not people.
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PoJo...the prevailing winds are thru the NE to SE-S quadrant...so runway 10 has the most usage,
Occasionaly in winter there may be the odd day of SW from a southern cold front push.
During the Wet season winds SW thru N..so you can use either way with N. With storms about like as now wind could be any old which way
28 got some use today,
Occasionaly in winter there may be the odd day of SW from a southern cold front push.
During the Wet season winds SW thru N..so you can use either way with N. With storms about like as now wind could be any old which way
28 got some use today,
