Am I reading this right? CASR 61.375

[beached az]

So according to para (8)(b) I can fly IFR without holding an Instrument Rating as long as I have a valid ATPL or MPL.
I'm currently studying for an upcoming IPC, the first time in Part 61 land
What am I missing here?

Cheers
BAz

[MickG0105]

An ATPL includes the privileges of operating under VFR and IFR so you don’t need a separate instrument rating. If you have an ATPL you have at least 75 hours of instrument time of which 45 hours must be flying time.

[Arctaurus]

You will find the ATPL flight test incorporates the IPC requirements for the instrument rating part.

[Mach E Avelli]

All that really means is that with an ATPL you don’t get a page saying ‘Instrument Rating’ like in days gone by.
You still need to have an IPC annually, unless you are with an operator that has a cyclic program. After the first year from initial ATPL flight test the examiner will sign the IPC and show a following expiry date.
Only in CASA Land could it be so obscure.

[beached az]

Thanks all for clearing that up

The shiny new Part 61 Licence has my ATPL (circa 2007 & pre flight test requirements) as well as Instrument Rating (endorsed: MEA, 2D,3D) hence my confusion.
Certainly is obscure these days

Cheers
BAz

[Mach E Avelli]

I stand corrected. There is an entry saying ‘Instrument Rating’ on the ATPL buried amongst other endorsements and ratings, But unlike days of old, it shows no expiry date. That is what could cause confusion if read solely in conjunction with CASR 61.375.

[mustafagander]

Never forget the old CASA rule - "If you can't convince 'em, confuse 'em" Works every time.