Just because I don't expect a straightforward answer...
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Just because I don't expect a straightforward answer...
Are you allowed to practise stalls when flying solo in Australia? Assume the pilot holds current licence and medical certificate but is endorsed for neither spinning nor aerobatics.
As outlined in previous threads, CAR used to define straight and steady stalls as no aerobatic manoeuvre. In the meantime the paragraph was removed and I can't find regulation that says an instructor has to be present if stalls are to be done.
Assume also best practice: sufficient altitude to recover by 3000 ft. AGL, HASELL checks, no populated areas, daytime, no whisky in the 8 hours immediately preceding departure for said stall practice.
Is there a definite answer to this question?
As outlined in previous threads, CAR used to define straight and steady stalls as no aerobatic manoeuvre. In the meantime the paragraph was removed and I can't find regulation that says an instructor has to be present if stalls are to be done.
Assume also best practice: sufficient altitude to recover by 3000 ft. AGL, HASELL checks, no populated areas, daytime, no whisky in the 8 hours immediately preceding departure for said stall practice.
Is there a definite answer to this question?
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My interpretation of the very question is that the applicable context falls under CASR 61.385, aka. General competency rule, https://www.casa.gov.au/standard-page/general-competency-pilots.
As such, the decision to practice of straight and steady stalls when solo rests with the pilot and is allowed under this rule.
As such, the decision to practice of straight and steady stalls when solo rests with the pilot and is allowed under this rule.
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No rule anywhere which states that a pilot with a licence may not do stalls but note the new definition of aerobatics. Don't abruptly pitch nose down to recover because that would be aerobatics!
A few years ago CASA redefined aerobatics as:
"aerobatic manoeuvres, for an aircraft, means manoeuvres of the aircraft that involve
a) bank angles that are greater than 60°; or
(b) pitch angles that are greater than 45°, or are otherwise abnormal to the aircraft type; or
(c) abrupt changes of speed, direction, angle of bank or angle of pitch."
So no longer conforms to the ICAO definition.
A few years ago CASA redefined aerobatics as:
"aerobatic manoeuvres, for an aircraft, means manoeuvres of the aircraft that involve
a) bank angles that are greater than 60°; or(b) pitch angles that are greater than 45°, or are otherwise abnormal to the aircraft type; or
(c) abrupt changes of speed, direction, angle of bank or angle of pitch."
So no longer conforms to the ICAO definition.
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No rule anywhere which states that a pilot with a licence may not do stalls but note the new definition of aerobatics. Don't abruptly pitch nose down to recover because that would be aerobatics!
A few years ago CASA redefined aerobatics as:
"aerobatic manoeuvres, for an aircraft, means manoeuvres of the aircraft that involvea) bank angles that are greater than 60°; or
(b) pitch angles that are greater than 45°, or are otherwise abnormal to the aircraft type; or
(c) abrupt changes of speed, direction, angle of bank or angle of pitch."
So no longer conforms to the ICAO definition.
A few years ago CASA redefined aerobatics as:
"aerobatic manoeuvres, for an aircraft, means manoeuvres of the aircraft that involve
a) bank angles that are greater than 60°; or(b) pitch angles that are greater than 45°, or are otherwise abnormal to the aircraft type; or
(c) abrupt changes of speed, direction, angle of bank or angle of pitch."
So no longer conforms to the ICAO definition.
Last edited by Okihara; 5th February 2019 at 09:12.
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If you have the appropriate rating, flight review, proficiency check, your fine. Just operate within the AFM limits. It should tell you what the permissible manoeuvres are.
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Hey Bravo.....et Al....
I AM 'old', and I still like to practice 'stalls and 'spins' etc... just to 'ensure' that I will continue to grow a whole lot 'older'.....and still enjoy my 'dancing amongst the clouds'....
Live Life..!!!
Cheers...…...
I AM 'old', and I still like to practice 'stalls and 'spins' etc... just to 'ensure' that I will continue to grow a whole lot 'older'.....and still enjoy my 'dancing amongst the clouds'....
Live Life..!!!
Cheers...…...
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