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FAA approves low cost home simulators to maintain instrument currency

Old 7th Jan 2019, 02:22
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FAA approves low cost home simulators to maintain instrument currency

In an article in the US Flying magazine October 2018 under the heading “Instrument currency at home” it states that the FAA has changed the regulations so the use of approved home simulators is available to maintain instrument rating currency.
“That’s right, you no longer need to have an instructor seated next to you or go fly with a safety pilot under the hood, and you never even need to leave the comfort of your living room. …You’ll need to purchase an approved aviation training device that includes actual physical knobs and switches or a touch screen that can replicate them. A few are available, one from FlyThisSim for about $5,400…”
Have the Aussie rules been updated? As we all know, in the USA instrument ratings do not have to be renewed. As long as you remain current, you have them forever. In the Flight Review there is no requirement to do any instrument flying at all. This keeps costs down and the industry growing.
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 02:52
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$5400?
You can fly 25hrs of dual for that amount.
Which means about 12 years(!) worth of Instrument Proficiency Checks.
Makes almost as much sense as buying a new Tesla to save on gas.
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 05:47
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Then buy one and have your mates pay you for using it.
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 10:29
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Then buy one and have your mates pay you for using it.
Folks,
Another example of divided by a common language. And, of course, the standard knee jerk Australian rejection..
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$5400?
Sounds cheap to maintain proficiency and tax deductible to boot, sign me up.
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 19:17
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So - is this allowed in Aus?
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 20:21
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
$5400?
You can fly 25hrs of dual for that amount.
Which means about 12 years(!) worth of Instrument Proficiency Checks.
Makes almost as much sense as buying a new Tesla to save on gas.
$216 dual for an IFR trainer.. sign me up!
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Old 7th Jan 2019, 20:22
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Sadly certainly not Dick. Don’t think it wil ever happen in Australia during my lifetime and I’m now 48!

The regs even require a CASA FOI to do a 12 monthly fidelity check to keep the sims CASA approved, even for the most basic PC based sim that most flying schools and GA operators use.

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$216 dual for an IFR trainer.. sign me up!

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Sadly not in this country for $216.
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It's not only good for Instrument Rating currency, but it also counts for up to 50 hours towards a Commercial Certificate. I've just ordered one for my flight school where it will certainly improve my customers' experience while reducing their costs. Safety should be enhanced because it will be much easier and cheaper for pilots to maintain proficiency.

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I spent 5 years instructing IFR in a helicopter school which had IFR B206 as well as CASA-certified IFR sims - no motion, but as realistic as you could get, with surround screens and real buttons and switches.

I allowed my IR to expire, as i intended to "retire" and just perform ground duties in the simulator, but CA$A declared I could no longer instruct in a sim. ...unle$$... I paid for a CA$$$$A per$on to come up to the $chool and check me a$ $uitable to in$truct in a $im. For a fee of cour$e. The fact that I had been using those sims for 5 years and held an instrument rating since 1972 mattered not a whit.
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Ascend Charlie. Do not tell the rest of the World about CASA bureaucracy. No one will believe it.
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Ascend Charlie. Do not tell the rest of the World about CASA bureaucracy. No one will believe it.
Folks,
It is very easy to check out, on the FAA web site, what you can do with varying grades of Flight Training Devices, short of a simulator.

Indeed, this latest announcement is further linear progress ---- rather than a big breakthrough, in using economical modern electronics.

It is a great pity we do not see the same logical thinking and associated progress here --- and it is both the fault of the "industry" and CASA --- the Australia aviation kneejerk NO!

I wonder why it is that Australia has a reputation for being early adopters of new technology, except aviation ---- and is the answer why aviation is100% the opposite as simple as a bureaucracy and their subjects wedded to "approval" --- nothing can happen until "it" is officially approved by the officially approved approving authority ---- and the bureaucratically safe answer is ALWAYS to say NO!!

Under the various legislation, under which the DoT and FAA work, a kneejerk NO! is not an option. There is no such restraint in Australia.

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and the bureaucratically safe answer is ALWAYS to say NO!!
'Twas always thus ever since I was in DCA in 1969.
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