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Old 16th Jul 2018, 07:41
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Originally Posted by Flying Bear


Wow. With such an attitude, please don’t come to Darwin looking for work! We don’t want you.

Some of us are proud of the work we do in GA - and if you work at it (like most things in life), you’ll do okay in GA.

Otherwise, if you’re on a pathway to airlines, embrace and value the experience you’ll get from GA, have fun, learn lots and try not to kick sand in the faces of the rest of us when you finally get the airline opportunity that GA facilitated for you.

Age of entitlement...

Umm, I think you might be confusing me with someone else. I spent a lot of time in GA in the 20th century and am quite proud of my achievements in GA as well. I am intending to return back to it for as long as I can hold a medical. I have a feeling you might be a little touchy and not reading what is actually written. The thread is about a question from a newb starting out in GA. What I am writing is about a Newb, not someone who has built up a business in GA over a long period. So I am sure you are aware you don't start in GA expecting to make a lot of money, otherwise you would be deluding yourself. Full-time starting salaries in GA are in the $40K range. If you can only get part-time or casual work to begin with then you do indeed need a backup job--in fact that is how I kick-started my own flying career. Hence my tongue-in-cheek comment about 'aspiring to poverty'. We didn't have student loans back then, so it is a little easier for the new generation if they use the system properly. Not sure where you got the idea I am on the 'pathway to airlines', BTDT. Wow talk about assumptions.

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Old 16th Jul 2018, 08:07
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Fair ‘huff - point taken.

Apologies for my assumption. Reading your earlier posts about student loans appeared to me as though you advocated for pilots to take these out as a first resort, if you like. In this case, for something as irrelevant (in the early career stage) as a GTE DFE.

Therefore you came across like the multitude of young ‘uns I see regularly, who don’t really understand the implications of these debts they accrue, and then whinge about the working environment... Hence the assumption - oops - bad Bear...

I’m only touchy about what I see regarding those student loans only compounding the “poverty” situation for young pilots. With debts nearing $100k and the framework of the repayments, combined with the conditions in GA, one wonders how they will ever buy a house to raise their families in - if they seek a career in GA, which I think is a worthy profession (ie Flight Instructing, RFDS, Check and Training, etc).

I want to see them succeed and certainly for the GA environment to improve for them - but all too often we (as pilots) are our own worst enemy as we allow the downside of GA to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Rather, I’d like to encourage pilots to work longer within GA or to make a career of it, so as to make it better for those who come after.

That’s the essence of what I’m touchy about!

Back on topic - save your pennies for many more useful things than a turbine endo. Let that be at your Company’s cost when the time is right.

Keep well!
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 08:31
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Originally Posted by Flying Bear
Fair ‘huff - point taken.

Apologies for my assumption. Reading your earlier posts about student loans appeared to me as though you advocated for pilots to take these out as a first resort, if you like. In this case, for something as irrelevant (in the early career stage) as a GTE DFE.
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Back on topic - save your pennies for many more useful things than a turbine endo. Let that be at your Company’s cost when the time is right.

Keep well!
Thanks for the apology, it is accepted, it shows you have a good self-esteem. (the foundation of good CRM)
Regarding the gas-turbine endorsement, I am not sure it is as clear cut as you say. Again, back in the 20th century, because my other career paid well I had the funds to spend on a gas-turbine endorsement and it was a tax-deduction as well. I got that endorsement at about the 700 hour mark and it opened up right-hand-seat opportunities in corporate operations when they had the occasional crew shortages. So if you are going to pay for a gas-turbine endorsement you need to do your research and choose your target aircraft correctly. I agree it is a risky career option to take but then you never know how it will work out. (worked for me anyway)
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