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Old 25th Mar 2018, 21:41
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
Perhaps Eddie Dean could expand on that. Is this what he saw / didn't see? Or is it what he was told as he passed by?

I can't imagine that he'd have sat there for any length of time to definitively say that it didn't happen.
I doubt that a Conquest would block that section of road for a Tojo off a station.
Correct you are. Not that I saw whilst I chatted to the FO.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 18:00
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Originally Posted by Eddie Dean
Correct you are. Not that I saw whilst I chatted to the FO.

Oh so you were with the plane the whole night and until highway departure the next afternoon?

Fuel and engineers drive from Broome to site, plane makes a miraculous recovery and takes off for Broome. Two empty drums make the trip back to Broome to continue life as waste fuel slops.
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Old 27th Mar 2018, 23:57
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Originally Posted by Badengo
Oh so you were with the plane the whole night and until highway departure the next afternoon?

Fuel and engineers drive from Broome to site, plane makes a miraculous recovery and takes off for Broome. Two empty drums make the trip back to Broome to continue life as waste fuel slops.
I think you've misunderstood his reply.
Since he's off a nearby station, he may not be able to reply immediately.

Arcane phrasing, but I'm pretty sure he's saying that no fuel was uploaded up until or while he was at the aircraft.
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 10:10
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Holy maleficent mycelium, Batman!
Quick, Robin, call the commissioner!
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 10:27
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So how deeply is Skippers politically connected?

Can we expect a similar treatment to that of Pel Air in the wake of the NGA ditching?

If it’s fuel exhaustion or starvation, what’s the issue other than embarrassment?
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 10:59
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Yeah, I agree, this is BS - what's the story?
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 12:36
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
So how deeply is Skippers politically connected?

Can we expect a similar treatment to that of Pel Air in the wake of the NGA ditching?

If it’s fuel exhaustion or starvation, what’s the issue other than embarrassment?
Those are the sorts of sharp questions that need to be asked.
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 13:27
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No requirement for an AD by CASA.


So it can only be a run of the mill issue!


Or we will have been informed of a important safety issue by the authorities by now.


If it was not a gas problem we all need to know by now as it is a serious problem and keeping secret's can cost lives - and that's on you!
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Old 28th Mar 2018, 17:25
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Did the media get to interview any of the pax for a blow by blow description of the last few minutes of the flight ?? (Radio comms or PIC comments etc).

I don't watch TV, nor will I pay a shekel to bypass their paywall to the clickbait stories, so if there was an article I'm not aware of it. Cheers.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 06:55
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Fuel exhaustion

An acquaintance with connections to Skippers engineering has stated that the aircraft ran out of fuel.

The fuel predicament was known to the pilot when passing Derby, but he chose to press on, in the desperate hope of making it to Broome.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 07:40
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In Australia the single biggest cause of hull loss of aircraft flown by holders of CPLs and ATPLs is fuel exhaustion or starvation.

If fuel exhaustion or starvation is the cause of the forced landing in this case, it’s a sad indictment of the busted system that the circumstances can’t be acknowledged as being what they are, with everyone learning (again) the importance of fuel system knowledge, fuel planning and airborne fuel management (and avoiding ‘get-home-itis’ and commercial pressures).

Or maybe it was just a landing because a POB had to do an really big poo...
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 07:51
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
In Australia the single biggest cause of hull loss of aircraft flown by holders of CPLs and ATPLs is fuel exhaustion or starvation.

If fuel exhaustion or starvation is the cause of the forced landing in this case, it’s a sad indictment of the busted system that the circumstances can’t be acknowledged as being what they are, with everyone learning (again) the importance of fuel system knowledge, fuel planning and airborne fuel management (and avoiding ‘get-home-itis’ and commercial pressures).

Or maybe it was just a landing because a POB had to do an really big poo...


The next is I assume on the list of hull damage biggest list, is no rubber in contact with ground on landings.

2 known problems and where is CAsA on these issues?
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Bend alot
The next is I assume on the list of hull damage biggest list, is no rubber in contact with ground on landings.

2 known problems and where is CAsA on these issues?
Your assumption is incorrect. Wheels ups are not the second biggest cause of hull loss of aircraft being flown by CPLs or ATPLs in Australia.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 08:13
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Eddie Dean,

You made this statement:

There was no fuel uplifted on the highway. Unless of course there is a secret squirrel method of doing this.
Were you at the aircraft the entire time it was on the highway?
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 08:37
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At post #80 Eddie said:
Working on a cattle station nearby, happened to be on the Highway when the blokes from Skippers arrived.

Be at north west air spares sometime today. Surely they will know the duff gen on this.
I’ll give folding money to charity if Eddie was anywhere near the aircraft at the time. The “duff gen” I have is that Eddie’s running interference.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 09:32
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Eight pages of this yet already, and most posts full of conjecture, allegations without much, if any, hard evidence behind them! Plus statements purporting 'facts' without anything to back them up etc etc.

Tailwheel; you wanna make with the padlock?
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 10:36
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100% too much air in the hydrocarbon supply system. Can guarantee the only log that was updated at the scene was the flight log - fuel added. Nil maintenance. Nil engine setups. Nil cowls off. Nil defects evident.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 10:47
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If that is the reason for the forced landing, why does Skippers still have an AOC?
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 10:53
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And as I said previously the ATSB initial report stating engine failure if I recall is utter BS. The engines did not fail at all poor things - I believe they need fuel to function. Someone please come out, state what happened and put us out of our misery. Do a Steve Smith for goodness sake.
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Old 29th Mar 2018, 15:14
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Yep give Steve credit and get him a sand paper sponsorship.
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