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Old 21st Feb 2018, 22:38
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Originally Posted by havick
Do you know which band you were put in? You might not have faired as well as you thought in the tests.
By band do you mean for additional testing? I got pilot on additional testing as well, and they said I can do my assessment day which I also passed and put through to flight screening. Or by band do you mean my dossier as a whole in the pool? Because I don't know that information.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 22:51
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Originally Posted by Akahmi
By band do you mean for additional testing? I got pilot on additional testing as well, and they said I can do my assessment day which I also passed and put through to flight screening. Or by band do you mean my dossier as a whole in the pool? Because I don't know that information.
They usually tell you what band you sit in. Ie how well you actually scored. If you are say band 4 but in the next 12 months a bunch more band 1, 2 or 3 applicants come in behind you, they will get called up from the hold pool for flight screening ahead of you.

The recruiter usually tells applicants what band they are while sitting in the hold pool waiting for a call to goto Flight screening.

If you’ve been waiting as long as you previously mentioned then perhaps you didn’t do as well as you thought, even though you met the minimum requirements for Flight screening.
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 22:57
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Originally Posted by havick
They usually tell you what band you sit in. Ie how well you actually scored. If you are say band 4 but in the next 12 months a bunch more band 1, 2 or 3 applicants come in behind you, they will get called up from the hold pool for flight screening ahead of you.

The recruiter usually tells applicants what band they are while sitting in the hold pool waiting for a call to goto Flight screening.

If you’ve been waiting as long as you previously mentioned then perhaps you didn’t do as well as you thought, even though you met the minimum requirements for Flight screening.
Wow this is news to me, I've never heard of this band system. And I asked my recruiter how I was sitting in the pool and he said some weird percentile number which I can't remember. Is this band number determined by how well you do on the additional exams? Or is this band for your dossier i.e how you are sitting in the pool? It's entirely possible my dossier as a whole wasn't competitive.
EDIT: I just emailed my recruiter and he said this on band numbers: "The band scoring is no longer released to pilot candidates and this will be explained to you in further details when you attend the new aircrew selection process at East Sale." So looks like your information is outdated.

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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 06:17
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EDIT: I just emailed my recruiter and he said this on band numbers: "The band scoring is no longer released to pilot candidates and this will be explained to you in further details when you attend the new aircrew selection process at East Sale." So looks like your information is outdated.
You're going to fit right in with the military - Not!
How about a little bit of humility on your part rather than continually trying to think you're smarter than everyone else. Your 18 years old and haven't even got an hour in your log book yet but want to argue to toss with everyone here with far more experience than you are ever likely to have.
If you're the future of our defence. Where's my friggin white flag.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 07:49
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You're going to fit right in with the military - Not!
How about a little bit of humility on your part rather than continually trying to think you're smarter than everyone else. Your 18 years old and haven't even got an hour in your log book yet but want to argue to toss with everyone here with far more experience than you are ever likely to have.
If you're the future of our defence. Where's my friggin white flag.
I wouldn’t worry too much, no one with that attitude survives very long haha.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 11:23
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Originally Posted by Back Seat Driver
Close Gerry.
As Maxwell Smart would say to you. Missed by this much.
Amazing the magnitude of error with the incorrect positioning of a decimal point.
But only by a factor of ten.. This time...

My mates who had to put up with me in the RAAF, all these years later, continue to advise me that I was the dumbest of the dumb..

I repeat: Thank goodness that I'm no longer looking for a job.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Pinky the pilot
When I first read that part of the original post my first reaction was along the lines of..."and just how many People could actually work that out in their heads??"

I used to top the Class in Primary School in Mental Arithmetic (mid to late 60's) when it was a fundamental part of Schooling in South Australian Primary Schools.

I'd struggle to even begin to calculate that sort of problem now!

OK fellow Ppruners; Be honest now! Whom amongst us could do that calculation?
It is easy, however brute force is not the easy way to do it in your head, break it down to multiple simple calculations which are fast and easy

13852=14000-148
13852/8=14000/8-148/8
14000/8=14000/2->7000/2->3500/2->1750
148/8=148/2->74/2->37/2->18.5=20-1.5

1750-20+1.5=1731.5

Anyone can do that in your head broken down like that.
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 22:50
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Originally Posted by Akahmi
So looks like your information is outdated.

Hey buddy, you've already pissed off people in the other RAAF pilot thread in the military section, now you're at it again... have a think about what you type!
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 01:57
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Originally Posted by YPJT
You're going to fit right in with the military - Not!
How about a little bit of humility on your part rather than continually trying to think you're smarter than everyone else. Your 18 years old and haven't even got an hour in your log book yet but want to argue to toss with everyone here with far more experience than you are ever likely to have.
If you're the future of our defence. Where's my friggin white flag.
Lol what? I'm not arguing with him, I'm just stating facts. My recruiter emailed me saying they don't use the band system anymore so his info is outdated, no attacking no trolling just pure facts. I don't see what your problem is.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 02:00
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Originally Posted by Slezy9
Hey buddy, you've already pissed off people in the other RAAF pilot thread in the military section, now you're at it again... have a think about what you type!
What did I do to piss him off? I'm purely stating facts that my recruiter has emailed me.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 03:37
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Originally Posted by gerry111
Thank goodness that I'm no longer looking for a job..

I'd have tried:

8 into one doesn't go.
8 into 13 does go once, carry 5.
8 into 58 does go 7 times, carry 2.
8 into 25 does go 3 times, carry 1.
8 into 12 goes once, carry 4
8 into 40 goes 5 times with no remainder.

So the solution is 1731.5

Thank goodness, SWTT that my mother patiently helped me with Roman numerals..
yeah, I did it in my head this way, got the same answer. I was dragged thru primary school in the 60s.

It took me almost 30 seconds.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 03:42
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Originally Posted by Akahmi
What did I do to piss him off? I'm purely stating facts that my recruiter has emailed me.
No one is pissed off at all.

They may not call it banding anymore, however the principal remains the same. You sit in a competitive pool of applicants until you get a tap on the shoulder to goto Flight screening. Someone may pass the entry tests at the recruiting center, but not score high enough to get picked to goto Flight screening, as better candidates leap frog said person with higher scores.

The name may have changed, however the concept remains the same.

Personally I couldn’t care less about your particular situation, I’m just stating how the system works overall.

Good luck which ever way you go in your flying career, it’s a brutal industry.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 03:55
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I hope for your sake Akahmi, that Akahmi is not your name, part of it or some kind of nickname because if someone from RAAF read your tripe from this forum, you could probably kiss a RAAF pilot career goodbye.

Your attitude represents a RISK to the department. If you're annoying so many people here, how many people will you annoy in the "real" world?

Believe it or not, your attitude here directly affects your ability to be able to fly a $70m Super Hornet. Why take YOU on-board when so many OTHERS don't publicly humiliate themselves on forums and whatever else you get up to?
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 04:56
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Its a modern day problem. Kids now rarely need to be able to do mental math.
In flight instruction, I have had to teach students how to do mental math, it takes time and opportunity to develop that ability. The earlier the better.

These days, I see many pilots pull out a calculator to do calculations that can be done mentally if practiced.

When I check students calculations, its not uncommon to see figures one or more decimal places out or with no concept of what the answer should be looking like.
You have to teach them to do mental math in order for them to check their computed answers.

I'd view it as a test of being able to engage the brain.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 06:09
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At least our young friend Akhami was smart enough to delete the other thread...
Best move you've made thus far!
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 06:58
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Originally Posted by StickWithTheTruth
I hope for your sake Akahmi, that Akahmi is not your name, part of it or some kind of nickname because if someone from RAAF read your tripe from this forum, you could probably kiss a RAAF pilot career goodbye.

Your attitude represents a RISK to the department. If you're annoying so many people here, how many people will you annoy in the "real" world?

Believe it or not, your attitude here directly affects your ability to be able to fly a $70m Super Hornet. Why take YOU on-board when so many OTHERS don't publicly humiliate themselves on forums and whatever else you get up to?
As you can see in Havick's response, he wasn't pissed off, me and him were having a regular conversation, but thank you for your invaluable feed back.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 07:50
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight
At least our young friend Akhami was smart enough to delete the other thread...
Best move you've made thus far!
Thanks for that JosephFW, I hadn't looked for it again to check myself.

Goes to character your honour... I love it when the guilty go and delete old threads and posts in the off chance that nobody has read them. That's why it is good to use the quote function as they can't delete their dopey comments later on.

I rest my case.

Akhami, don't worry, you'll understand what I'm saying when you're older and hopefully more mature and wiser. Hopefully that happens before you screw up the rest of your life because you think you know more than everyone else right now.

I've got a very close friend in RAAF recruiting, I'll let him know to be on the the lookout for a naive self-deserving kid coming through.... it will be hard to find you amongst all the others like you!
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 02:20
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Funny. I just look at and think it's about 1700. Not much maths that I've ever done in an aircraft needs more accuracy than that.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 05:50
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Originally Posted by Akahmi
As you can see in Havick's response, he wasn't pissed off, me and him were having a regular conversation, but thank you for your invaluable feed back.
OMG...

This kid just doesn't get it!!

Ok so maybe you didn't piss off Havick, but you pissed me off (and others) with your attitude. But what do I know, I was only a RAAF QFI for 7 years.

Pull your head in!
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 09:27
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I really wasn't going to comment on this thread, but maybe I'm finally getting a bit old and cranky....

Slezy9, StickWithTheTruth, and others; Could it just be possible that you have just been 'wound up?'
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