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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 12:24
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Originally Posted by MagnumPI
Now $280 for a 2 year renewal through AviationID Australia.

Is there anywhere substantially cheaper?

Was the government supposed to be taking ASIC issuance back 'in house' or did I just imagine it?
securityid.com.au $223
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Old 22nd Oct 2022, 23:00
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Although I don't hold a current ASIC, my last few have been through securityid and I found their folks fine to deal with.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 05:40
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And I still remember reading that all ASIC's had to be returned when expired and ".....we'll know if you don't return them......" and terrible penalties will apply to offenders etc etc etc...

I know of a bloke who a while ago still had his old one which expired back in 2008.

No idea if he still has it though, as he did say that he was going to destroy it by feeding it through a shredder.
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 09:16
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Well Pinky, you'd better get the chards of asic out of your shredder and send it back to the issuer
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I’d forgotten all about getting my 50 bucks deposit back when I returned my expired asic

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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 09:49
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Well Pinky, you'd better get the chards of asic out of your shredder and send it back to the issuer
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 10:42
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I remember a few years ago I had a visit from the Feds looking for a bloke who used to work for us, that had failed to return an expired ASIC. They were very serious about telling me the penalties. I laughed at the F*ckers! I said "What is the point you idiots, its expired anyway?" They left after that. HAHAHAHahaha! 🤣
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 11:25
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I handed my old ASIC card to the person who gave me the new one. A few months later I received a letter in the mail demanding the old ASIC card. Lots of penalties if I did not!

I replied that I enjoyed a good laugh and that I was laughing now.

Never heard another word from them.

Maybe my arrest warrant is still in the inwards tray?
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Old 23rd Oct 2022, 14:08
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At this point it's probably cheaper to run the gauntlet of getting fined.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 04:17
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Red face Ass Sick

Hi everyone,
I just paid to renew my ASIC today $328 all up including the postal fee through Veritas.
Looking back over the last ten years this thing has gone up dramatically, I can’t see how the fee increases are justified.
Furthermore, why do we have to go through the identity checks for each renewal? Once identified all that should need to be done is a security check to see if the applicant has committed any disqualifying offences in the previous two years. (We don’t have to complete a 100 point ID check to renew other official documents, drivers licence for example) and after all it’s highly unlikely that you have changed your date of birth since the last application.
To continue my rant, I’ve heard that similar security cards have been dropped in Europe (can anyone confirm this) and Australia has a much lower security risk than most European countries. It just seems like another form of tax and an unnecessary burden on pilots, as well is being an ineffectual security control.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 10:52
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We all agree I'm sure.
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Old 31st Oct 2022, 13:42
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I fly in Europe. Each airport issues it's own ID card - which is really annoying as you can't access any doors outside of your home airport. I have no idea what GA do.
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 08:02
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ASIC Card

So David Cutmore gets 18 years in the slammer. He was just back from jail time in New Zealand. He gets back to Australia and gets an ASIC card.
So much for the value ofmthe ASIC application asking what criminal convictions you have.
In short my money for getting an ASIC card is just going into the Government coffers and not preventing jail bitds from getting an ASIC card.
I invite comment from others closer to the ASIC issuing point.
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 09:06
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How do you know that he has an ASIC card?
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 10:29
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Because it stated in the article that he was issued one AFTER doing time in NZ for criminal offences
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Old 8th Nov 2022, 10:56
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What article?
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Old 9th Nov 2022, 04:42
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mmmm, I forget which outlet, may have been ABC? But whomever wrote it actually did their research. Questioned how a convicted criminal who served jail time was issued an ASIC. Let me see if I can chase the article up.

It was quite a good article, went into the fellows background, who he worked for in the past.
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Old 9th Nov 2022, 05:12
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
What article?
It is as tossbag says. The article was in The Australian two days ago.
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Old 9th Nov 2022, 10:51
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Well the article was not referenced in this thread. But based on your post Cloudee, I have now found the story in the Australian and there is nothing in that story to confirm he had an ASIC. It doesn’t say he had one! The Australian incorrectly assumes you need an ASIC to be a ‘working pilot’, which is incorrect.

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Old 9th Nov 2022, 11:25
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom
Well the article was not referenced in this thread. But based on your post Cloudee, I have now found the story in the Australian and there is nothing in that story to confirm he had an ASIC. It doesn’t say he had one! The Australian incorrectly assumes you need an ASIC to be a ‘working pilot’, which is incorrect.
Fair enough, google only brought up this quote from the Australian

2 days ago — How Cutmore managed to retain the aviation security identification card to be a working pilot, which requires a criminal-background check, ...”

It’s behind a paywall and I’m not paying for newscorp stories!
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