PA28 Upgrade/Refurbishment
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My syndicate want to respray the Aircraft and I have an objection as it is solely for aesthetic reasons.
My questions:
1. How much typically will a bare metal respray cost?
2. Can one buy 2nd hand Garmin 1000 glass panels and if so how muc do they typically cost? (I want to propose we rather do this).
3. If we repaint would it be crazy to suggest 'hivis yellow' as it will make the aircraft very visible and improve safety - I will rather have a very visible aircraft than a beautiful colour scheme that is less visible!!
4. Can a ballistice parachute be retrofitted to a PA28 and if so how much roughly?
Thanks to PPRuNe members in advance for some insights and guidance.
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My questions:
1. How much typically will a bare metal respray cost?
2. Can one buy 2nd hand Garmin 1000 glass panels and if so how muc do they typically cost? (I want to propose we rather do this).
3. If we repaint would it be crazy to suggest 'hivis yellow' as it will make the aircraft very visible and improve safety - I will rather have a very visible aircraft than a beautiful colour scheme that is less visible!!
4. Can a ballistice parachute be retrofitted to a PA28 and if so how much roughly?
Thanks to PPRuNe members in advance for some insights and guidance.
WokingSeller
My best guesses:
1. £12,000.
2. Sorry, don’t know.
3. Yes it would be crazy. The RAF did some research and discovered that the most conspicuous colour was matt black. Hence, all RAF training aircraft are painted in that colour, although a gloss finish is used.
4. Probably not.
1. £12,000.
2. Sorry, don’t know.
3. Yes it would be crazy. The RAF did some research and discovered that the most conspicuous colour was matt black. Hence, all RAF training aircraft are painted in that colour, although a gloss finish is used.
4. Probably not.
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Why post a question on local cost in an Australian forum, from the UK? I would imagine the cost would be significantly different in both countries?
Probably not, aside from overcoming the loss of structural integrity, the problems are probably hideous. However even if it were possible, in Australia the aero engineering design work, regulator design approval process and actual work to be carried out would cost many times more than your Cherokee is worth, take a life time to achieve and you would probably loose significant payload. Probably best to file that idea in the silly ideas bin?
Can a ballistice parachute be retrofitted to a PA28 and if so how much roughly?
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I sincerely apologise for wasting 'tail wheel' time in Australia.
Thank you for the feedback and nice to be able to plug into the collective knowledge of so many capable people.
Tail Wheel it will nevertheless be interesting to get the respray costs from Australia as it will be a good comparison.
Thanks to all the feedback-the 'matt black' feedback is very interesting.
Thank you for the feedback and nice to be able to plug into the collective knowledge of so many capable people.
Tail Wheel it will nevertheless be interesting to get the respray costs from Australia as it will be a good comparison.
Thanks to all the feedback-the 'matt black' feedback is very interesting.
I have seen a C-172 fitted with a ballistic chute but at the expense of having no baggage locker. Not sure if a similar thing is possible with a PA-28.
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1. How much typically will a bare metal respray cost?
Probably $15k to $20k AUD
2. Can one buy 2nd hand Garmin 1000 glass panels and if so how muc do they typically cost? (I want to propose we rather do this).
Would probably cost more than the plane is worth.
There are now better and cheaper options from Garmin and other vendors like Aspen.
3. If we repaint would it be crazy to suggest 'hivis yellow' as it will make the aircraft very visible and improve safety - I will rather have a very visible aircraft than a beautiful colour scheme that is less visible!!
Stick with the factory paint scheme. Looks the best and will have a better resale value. White is a practical colour for planes.
4. Can a ballistice parachute be retrofitted to a PA28 and if so how much roughly?
Close to impossible and not a good idea.
In general, if it is an older PA28 it's not worth spending a heap of money on upgrades. Just maintain it well and enjoy the flying. look for less expensive avionics upgrades.
Probably $15k to $20k AUD
2. Can one buy 2nd hand Garmin 1000 glass panels and if so how muc do they typically cost? (I want to propose we rather do this).
Would probably cost more than the plane is worth.
There are now better and cheaper options from Garmin and other vendors like Aspen.
3. If we repaint would it be crazy to suggest 'hivis yellow' as it will make the aircraft very visible and improve safety - I will rather have a very visible aircraft than a beautiful colour scheme that is less visible!!
Stick with the factory paint scheme. Looks the best and will have a better resale value. White is a practical colour for planes.
4. Can a ballistice parachute be retrofitted to a PA28 and if so how much roughly?
Close to impossible and not a good idea.
In general, if it is an older PA28 it's not worth spending a heap of money on upgrades. Just maintain it well and enjoy the flying. look for less expensive avionics upgrades.
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Apart from that, the saving is not normally very large for expensive avionics like a G1000. A few thousand dollars cheaper than buying new is common; you're not going to be picking up a G1000 for $10,000. Installation will be very expensive too, and may require other upgrades (eg. will the G1000 talk to the existing autopilot? If not, add $40K+ to your budget for a GFC 700).
I'm sure you could get one retrofitted, but I suspect that buying a Cirrus would be cheaper.
My guess from playing with Dynon EFIS is that you would have to rewire the aircraft. probably the interior and exterior lights and fuel pump would be untouched. You may also need a bigger battery.
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Sunfish et al, there is an STC for fitting Dynons to certified aircraft as a backup.
Dynon Avionics EFIS-D10A and EFIS-D100 | Now STC Approved for Type Certificated Aircraft
A near complete re-wiring of the aircraft? No!
Dynon Avionics EFIS-D10A and EFIS-D100 | Now STC Approved for Type Certificated Aircraft
A near complete re-wiring of the aircraft? No!
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You didn't specify which Dynon unit Sunnyjim. The point being that you do not have to rewire a whole aircraft to fit a Dynon. Small units versus large have similar wiring requirements.
I would say $30,000 to $40,000 depending on what is found once old paint is off.
This is the time to change windows, possible windscreens and lots of plastic/fibreglass bits. These are not included in the above price guess that is in AUD excluding the 10% GST.
This is the time to change windows, possible windscreens and lots of plastic/fibreglass bits. These are not included in the above price guess that is in AUD excluding the 10% GST.
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